How The Police Raided Bus No 10 This Morning Outside The Cf

[BankNote]

Today Morning , the police stopped bus No 10 as it was coming from provinces towards Capital Fed. and asked everyone for their DNI. Those who did not have DNI were escorted back individually back to their homes by the police in a police van to get and show the DNI. Those who claimed that they have lost the DNI were escorted by the police to the government office to apply for the DNI there and then. Those who claimed to be foreigners were escorted by the police back home to show their original passport. Those foreigners who behaved as if they did not comprehend sepaking a word of Spanish were taken to a police station and were interviewed by the police, in front of a government hired translator and later escorted to their home to show the orignal passport. Those who claimed they have a urgent meeting or a job to attend were denied the privilege. Those who tried to force their way out, be rude, shout, misbehave to force their way out were not allowed to.

On reaching individual's home, not only did police check their DNI but also demanded to check each family member's DNI staying in that home.

Hope this helps in showing us what lies ahead for us.

 

[GS_Dirtboy]

Were they all wearing brown shirts? Just checking ...

 

[Joe]

I'm sorry but this seems like an incredibly efficient and well organized police operation, incredibly unArgentine and I don't believe a word of it.

 

[jeff1234]

Any idea why they picked this bus?

 

[EricLovesBA]

I have heard of this before, though I thought it was usually targeted at weekend drunken club crowd. Before I obtained residency, I never carried my passport because the risk of it getting stolen seemed to outweigh the risk of a police check. I did usually carry a current photocopy of my passport though. I wonder if this would have sufficed in the above-described raid.

 

[ElQueso]

I wouldn't go so far as to say I don't believe a word of it, but I'm doubtful. I'm sure the police could be efficient when they want to be.

Could you supply more details? Like for example, how do you know all the details? The way you wrote the account sounds like a fiction story written in omniscient viewpoint or a reporter who interviewed a number of people and wrote a summary of their experiences. That latter could certainly be the case, of course, but I don't see anyway you could know all those details by having been there yourself, for example, unless you somehow went home with every individual that was involved, or at least every type of situation.

I also can't see the motivation for the "raid." What was the purpose? Did anyone get deported? Threatened? Maybe the police were looking for a dangerous fugitive or something and it didn't have anything to do with foreigners per se, except maybe the fugitive was foreign.

Don't take this the wrong way, I'm not saying you're inventing this, but if this is true and has the bent that you are suggesting, it could indeed have some impact on us foreigners here - as well as Argentinos themselves. Something so serious needs to have some kind of verifiable authenticity to it.

 

[ElQueso]

In more than 6 years of living here, I've never heard of anything like this, though of course that doesn't necessarily mean anything. I do, after all, experience something new at least once a week!

I've driven all over GBA, been stopped at traffic checks in the city and out, been stopped at checkpoints all along the north of the country, and even got a ticket one time somewhere in the north (don't remember where now, it was about 4 years ago) for reckless driving - I almost crashed through a checkpoint (well, at about 40 kph) because I was glancing down at a map as we were rounding a corner and the checkpoint was on the other side - I had to stop rather abruptly

Until a year ago, I didn't have a DNI and I still don't have an Argentine driver's license. Not a single cop has ever given me a hard time about that, though they have looked through my passport and checked my entrances and exits, and it was obvious that at the time I was a permatourist.

What could be the point of these kinds of raids?

 

[Iznogud]

Never heard of this.

Considering that a bus normally carries around 30 passengers, to accompany all those people home it would take aproximately 60-100 policemen and a bunch of vehicles to scatter in all directions.
Plus some cops to manage the logistics, process names, run backgroung / immigrations / etc. We're talking a 100 persons, likely involving other services and a judge or more.

Think I would have heard of it.

 

[BankNote]

Gentlemen,

I have nothing to gain from spreading false news. I am a sane human being and post here once in a while. As I understand that the forum is meant to share experiences. That is what i was doing. If someone thinks, its all fake, no offense taken. I do not wish to get in any arguments here.

And importantly,I do not wish to post my personal information on a public forum just to make you believe what I posted. This includes letting out how I was involved in this incident to post it.

Some of the questions raised. Here are the answers :-

1. It happened between 0915 to 0930 on 29 Nov.

2. It happened on Mitre street in Avelleneda.

3. Their were about 6-7 police cars full of cops.

4. Three policemen entered the bus to check the ids.

5. Most of the people were actually carrying their original DNI's.

6. In bus no 10, 4 people were found not to be carrying the documents. There grouped in pair of 2 each and sent in 2 of the police cars. The grouping was done as per where they were were living ( close to each other's house). Among the other 2 persons, one was taken to a DNI office to apply for a new DNI as that person reported that the DNI was lost.

7. They continued to stop other buses and check ids as these 4 people were being taken away.

8. Once at home and ids checked, same bus was taken again to head once again for the destination. This time, there were no more police cars and no id checks.

9. This news did not appear on national tv. Just as not everything which happens in this country is not reported on national television.

10. Amongst the 4 on bus no. 10, their was at least one foreighner who just had a debilitated copy of his passport in black and white without any evidence of his day of entry in the country. It was not accepted despite the foreigner behaving as if he did not speak a word of Spanish. He was taken to the police station and asked questions in English and eventually taken to his home to produce the original passport. No case was registered against him.

11. The cause of this strict action taken by police is unknown to the poster.

Pardon me if you find this "story" a lie or a figment of the imagination of the poster.

I have nothing more to say on the subject.

 

[citygirl]

Sorry but I have rather large doubts about the veracity of that story. There is no way you would know what happened to each individual person unless you have some magical ability to be in multiple places simultaneously OR you were the head of this operation (in which case I doubt you would be posting on baexpats).