How The Police Raided Bus No 10 This Morning Outside The Cf

[BankNote]

Sorry but I have rather large doubts about the veracity of that story. There is no way you would know what happened to each individual person unless you have some magical ability to be in multiple places simultaneously OR you were the head of this operation (in which case I doubt you would be posting on baexpats).

I had decided not to post any more on this subject.

But this forum lives up to its reputation. Everyone with a opinion and trying to counter the other person.

And the most funny thing is when people call you a liar. As if, their is some money to be won here for every post made or some hollywood movie directors are watching this forum and picking up script writers from here. C'mon gimme a break, pls.

Anyway, could not help avoiding to answer this one and for one last time.

Believe it or not. I couldn't care less.

Their is always a situation that maybe a "group" of people, known to each other were traveling in the bus. Maybe this group comprised of foreigner(s) and local(s). And as the ids were checked, what was being asked and conversed with each peson & the policeman, could be heard. Maybe more than 1 person from the group were amongst the 4 picked up. Maybe they were sent in different cars and sitting with other unknown people and hence forth came to know , what happened to the other person and to each of the 4 persons.

 

[Canick]

This sounds much more like an urban legend than actual events.
then again it's argentina...

 

[Crema Americana]

I don't find it that hard to believe actually. It's nothing really new for police to do ID checks... perhaps they were searching for someone in particular.

Every time you're stopped by police (pretty much anywhere) you'll be asked to show your ID. It seems a little exaggerated to take people into the police station or to take them to their home, but stranger things have happened.

 

[Joe]

The story is in fact true. The police were looking for El Lobizon and El Pombero.

 

[sleslie23]

The story is in fact true. The police were looking for El Lobizon and El Pombero.

I know where El Pombero is. Is there a reward?

 

[ElQueso]

I certainly didn't take your original statement as a lie. My apologies if you took it that way - but I don't just accept something that goes against my experience when I see what seem to be issues with what is told. This is a pretty big deal to me - I've been on the watch for fascist behavior here because I worry about the way things are headed. People keep saying "those things can never happen in this day and age" and other things which I'm sure have been repeated throughout human history just before those things did, indeed happen. It's like the Wright brothers and flying for the first time - "everyone" knows it can't happen until it does - humans always find a way. We're funny that way.

Your first post didn't include some information that your second post did. I understand (I think) why you know what you do which lends much more credence to the authenticity of your first statement. I think I see how you knew what happened to those who were separated and taken home to get their passports and such. From the first post, as vague as it was about who did what, I thought "this guy must have gone with each person in order to know what happened." Obviously that wasn't correct, couldn't have been, and now I feel more confident that you aren't a troll It happens, man. I've seen a couple of doozy threads get started due to trolls.

I wasn't trying to be rude when I described the way the original post was told either, as a story from an omniscient viewpoint or a reporter that had interviewed multiple people (and the second one would have been valid - it would explain how you knew things about [what could have been] a disparate group of people, for example) - I commented as I did so you would perhaps understand where I was coming from and not take offense, and hopefully clear it up.

I do find what you reported disturbing, but don't know what it means either. Recently, police caught a (I believe) Colombian drug honcho in a restaurant in Pilar. Maybe this was related to something similar, they were looking for someone or something and foreigners were targeted because the conjectured fugitive is a foreigner.

I don't know, but it bears watching.

 

[ElQueso]

Their is always a situation that maybe a "group" of people, known to each other were traveling in the bus. Maybe this group comprised of foreigner(s) and local(s). And as the ids were checked, what was being asked and conversed with each peson & the policeman, could be heard. Maybe more than 1 person from the group were amongst the 4 picked up. Maybe they were sent in different cars and sitting with other unknown people and hence forth came to know , what happened to the other person and to each of the 4 persons.

Heh. I'd written about two-thirds of my previous post and then walked away from my computer for a long while and didn't see the posts that came after until after I'd finished it and posted. I actually wrote about my understanding of your second post and how you knew what you knew before I saw yours or anyone else's subsequent comments. Should have gone back and seen if there were any more posts before I posted.

I mention that because I thought it was pretty obvious from your description, and as I said in my second post the difference between the way you described what happened in the second made me understand. I was surprised it didn't have that affect on those who posted afterward thinking it was a false story.

As you mention, the reason for what they did is unknown. Seems to me the most logical (at least that I can come up with at 4 am) reason would be something like a hunt for a specific foreign fugitive, who they may not know what he looks like, only a name or something.

I don't know.

BTW - I don't know if you were aiming at me when you talked about writing for the possibility of Hollywood directors watching the forum. I mention that only because I'm an extremely prolific writer when I have some free time. If it was me you were talking to, just know I write because I love to write and I have a lot to say about a lot of different things. May make me a windbag, or at least long-winded, but certainly not a buffoon

 

[GS_Dirtboy]

I thought it was a very reasonable question - how do you know the details of this?

And then the OP got very defensive. Now I'm doubly suspicious.

 

[citygirl]

Shrug - a police check on a bus looking for a suspect - sure, totally believable and NBD. The statement about knowing what happened to each exact passenger and a story clearly designed to incite disquiet with the statement "Hope this helps in showing us what lies ahead for us. " - it calls the credibility into question. Esp when the follow up involves a lot of maybes that still don't add up.

I can't get the police to come arrest people burning stolen cars outside of my property while it's happening, I'm not exactly worried about them being organized enough to do a mass crackdown checking for IDs

 

[kemer84]

I wouldn't go so far as to say I don't believe a word of it, but I'm doubtful. I'm sure the police could be efficient when they want to be.

Could you supply more details? Like for example, how do you know all the details? The way you wrote the account sounds like a fiction story written in omniscient viewpoint or a reporter who interviewed a number of people and wrote a summary of their experiences. That latter could certainly be the case, of course, but I don't see anyway you could know all those details by having been there yourself, for example, unless you somehow went home with every individual that was involved, or at least every type of situation.

I also can't see the motivation for the "raid." What was the purpose? Did anyone get deported? Threatened? Maybe the police were looking for a dangerous fugitive or something and it didn't have anything to do with foreigners per se, except maybe the fugitive was foreign.

Don't take this the wrong way, I'm not saying you're inventing this, but if this is true and has the bent that you are suggesting, it could indeed have some impact on us foreigners here - as well as Argentinos themselves. Something so serious needs to have some kind of verifiable authenticity to it.

I do not think you are in a possition to doubt anybodys post. Your last post about the bus robbery was in fact a big lie, I do not know whos, either you or the person that gave you the information.