Improved Security In Bsas?

[ajoknoblauch]

while flashing your Ipad

Or while flashing my five-dollar Casio watch.

 

[citygirl]

I may be in the minority here, but I feel safer in Buenos Aires than in the US, where the amount of firepower available to the delincuentes is utterly out of control. I mean, I wouldn't stroll through La Boca at 3 a.m., and I do stay aware of my surroundings, but there are no drivebys with AK 47s in Bs As.

Where do you go in the US that you worry about that?

Please come visit my very lovely house. 3-4 cars stolen cars per month are burned outside of our property these days. Used to be 1 every 3-4 months. So nice to hear crime is declining, I'll be sure to advise the thieves of that next time.

 

[ajoknoblauch]

Where do you go in the US that you worry about that?

Please come visit my very lovely house. 3-4 cars stolen cars per month are burned outside of our property these days. Used to be 1 every 3-4 months. So nice to hear crime is declining, I'll be sure to advise the thieves of that next time.

Los Angeles, Chicago, Oakland, DC and others. Then, of course, there's Newtown: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/28/us-usa-shooting-connecticut-idUSBRE92R0EM20130328

 

[nlaruccia]

It's called summer holidays. The "action" has moved elsewhere. "Work" is currently still at those get-away resorts.
It will resume shortly. Don't you worry about that.

That's actually true. There were several incidents and house robberies in Punta del Este this summer.

 

[nlaruccia]

I may be in the minority here, but I feel safer in Buenos Aires than in the US, where the amount of firepower available to the delincuentes is utterly out of control. I mean, I wouldn't stroll through La Boca at 3 a.m., and I do stay aware of my surroundings, but there are no drivebys with AK 47s in Bs As.

There are drive by shootings here but mostly in the provincia. You hear about them all the time on the news. My ex boss's mucama lived in Villa 31 and was terrified because she said she heard gun shots every day while sitting at home. Those aren't generally reported in the news and even less in this forum.

 

[Nounou]

Same situation, different country. Funnily enough this has been the debate here in West Aussie this week, small world isn't it!

Law and order aside, and forgive me if I indulge in a quick compare and contrast, what I noticed in my all too brief stay in B.A is a distinct lack of anger. I don't know exactly why that is, but would hazzard a guess that one reason could be the lack of an alcohol/binge drinking culture in B.A. If you look at a person the wrong way here in Perth you are likley to get big trouble, whether or not you are in a pub, just walking or driving along a road.

 

[Nounou]

Smoke and mirrors.
Honest citizens don't need all that fancy technology. The people demand only that current laws be respected and enforced.
Crime does pay for the little criminals, until that is fixed no amount of technology is going to protect and serve us chickins.

Good point Iznogud. People thesedays are seduced by technology, they think or want to think that these wiz-bang machines can replace the human element. Personally I don't think you can ever replace groups of 6 feet plus Policemen patroling the beat on foot. They have the ability to make those who cause harm think twice and run for their lives, and give ordinary citizens peace of mind. Plus, I have yet to see a patrol car take on a 7 foot wall....without tears and one hell of a repair bill!

 

[citygirl]

I think you will find that in the US, as in Argentina, "drive by shootings" tend to be confined to certain neighborhoods and are most often gang related. Issues with the gun culture aside, the odds of you getting shot in a drive by shooting in any of those cities is miniscule.

My issue with crime in BsAs is and always has been muggings, pickpocketing and robbery (both home and auto).

I actually saw some police in our neighborhood for the first time ever about 3 weeks ago. They were pulling over every car and making the drivers show the cedula. Apparently there have been such a rash of car thefts (and burnings) around here in the past few months that at least they're doing something. It even worked for a bit, I heard they arrested a few people and at least for 2 weeks, we didn't have any cars burned outside our property. However, 2 so far this week.

 

[Jaredberryman]

Smoke and mirrors.
Honest citizens don't need all that fancy technology. The people demand only that current laws be respected and enforced.
Crime does pay for the little criminals, until that is fixed no amount of technology is going to protect and serve us chickins.

How long until we discover the fancy patrol cars have too many circuit boards that are irrepleaceable, likely already outdated and discontinued and the fleet is canibalised for parts in no time. Who is going to send these robocop looking sputniks to a firefight anyways? Too easy to spot and to fragile to use in the frontlines. Rather put the bullet-proof materiels on the regular patrol ars than these ass-clown meter maid/ticket dispensers.

Hitech designed only to collect parking tickets.

There is plenty to do with what it's already available, starting with police instruction, training and practice. Hardware does not replace software needed solutions.

I'm going to disagree with you on this one. This kind of technology can be extremely helpful to law enforcement officials. Imagine that if you pull over a car, you immediately know whether it's stolen or not. You can immediately check to see if a person has a criminal record (are records of that even kept in Argentina?) The thing is, many of the crime problems in Argentina are actually structural. Thieves can steal, and then melt back into the villas, where there are no addresses and no organization. But any sort of organization and technology can be tremendous in fighting crime (Or so my friend who has a doctorate in criminology tells me. Actually, he says one of the problems of the NYPD is they are not technological enough). I'll agree that just buying some cars with extra technology will not fix the problem in and of itself, but it is a needed step that must happen. Hopefully they will maintain that technology and make good use of it, which I doubt. Unfortunately, it seems that one of the underlying problems in the police force here is that they are not properly trained, and many of them simply do not care. My father in law says in Spanish, 'The only thing they know how to do is ride a horse'. The police in Argentina is mostly useless.

 

[citygirl]

To be fair - the police in Argentina have it rough. Their salaries are a joke, they receive very little training and it's not as though the courts are on their side, even if they do arrest someone. It's a thankless job in general.