In Memoriam, Charlie Hebdo

[French jurist]

Our religious fanatics,are not beheding people,they maybe bothersome,and irrational,but they are not murdering people.

Some of them are murderers (Baruch Goldstein, Yiigal Amir, etc.), but it's true that Jews have mostly been victims over the centuries.
The Extreme Right gaining more & more weight in Israel is quite worrying though, even for Israel (Extreme Right never produces anything good on the long term).

There was even a recent terrorist attack made by Buddhists.

 

[ariel81]

Not all muslims are terrorists in the same way that not all westerners are Charlie. We are not Charlie, We're not Geert Wilders, we're not Ayaan Hirsi Ali. We didn't defy the World's sickest religion in defence of our freedom of speech.

who is charlie?
nothing wrong with the likes of geert wilders or pim fortuyn le pen,if the world had paid attention to what they said,we wouldnt have this disaster and the ones that will follow

 

[ariel81]

Some of them are murderers (Baruch Goldstein, Yiigal Amir, etc.), but it's true that Jews have rather been victims over the centuries.
The Extreme Right gaining more & more weight in Israel is quite worrying though, even for Israel (Extreme Right never produces anything good on the long term).

There was even a recent terrorist attack made by Buddhists.

Yigal amir is in jail,not idolized
Baruch goldtein is dead,and we dont name streets afther him,and both are widely condemned by all,left and right as well.
The extreme right is not gaining power,right yes,not extreme,and again,israel is a democracy,name for me one moslem democracy,just one.

 

[French jurist]

who is charlie?

Charlie Hebdo, the satirical newspaper that got attacked

 

[ariel81]

Charlie Hebdo, the satirical newspaper that got attacked

ahh,yes,the newspaper,i know,i used to read it,i thought the fellow poster meant a person
The magazine was great,not in my ideological camps,but nice.

 

[French jurist]

name for me one moslem democracy,just one.

Morroco is quite an authoritative power, but it's close from being a democracy.
I can also see Tunisia become a democracy (recent democratic elections, Tunisians reject Islamism).

But it's true that overall, most Muslim countries are far from being democracies.

 

[Matt84]

It's different Frenchie. A "terrorist attack by Buddhists" doesn't mean it's mandated or even remotely suggested by their religion. A Chinese or Cingalese newspaper could have accused the Irish Republican Army of committing "terrorist attack by Catholics" but you can very easily see how that would not be very accurate, even though yes the perpetrators were Catholics and the victims not.

In the case of Islam there are very clear rules. Striving is one of their tenets and it takes quiet a bit of creativity to twist the Prophet's words into something non criminal.
Or the case of very "moderate" islamic institutions funding extremist warring organizations: it's not a fluke, it's written in their code: 1/8th or some other percentage of the levied tzakat should go to fund warriors.

 

[ariel81]

Morroco is quite an authoritative power, but it's close from being a democracy.
I can also see Tunisia become a democracy (recent democratic elections, Tunisians reject Islamism).

But it's true that overall, most Muslim countries are far from being democracies.

Could be in the future,as now,neither the former nor the later are democracies

 

[polostar88]

When Zoo animals get loose and harm people, you ask this question, the question is who let the animals loose... you don't blame the animals.

 

[Dublin2BuenosAires]

The sectarian bile pouring into this thread is quite sad given it's original purpose. I'm out. Ignore function engaged.