PhilinBSAS
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Davidglen77 said:Hey Phil, thanks for your perspective. However here's my response:
David You are welcome.
I pretty much said what you mean regarding the "Roman's" statement, you have to be like them (or you won't be able to survive) without major problems.
My point is you have to identify the differences and not expect them to think, act like you think they should
I don't think "a large number of norteamericanos or homicidal maniacs" or are gun crazy, if you take in to account population and number of homicides in relation to that number - north america is just about on par with everyone else in the industrialized world - it's funny how other countries when comparing gun violence look at the sheer "number" but leave out the part of population - that skews the numbers against the USA.
Umm my point was about stereotypes - as explained in the paragraph below in my original message. Discussion about murder rates is another point which is being covered in another thread btw. That you get defensive about this "chestnut" being mentioned only serves to unscore the point I make about unhelpful stereotypes I would suggest
I DO think it's logic, human beings in the best of cases should LEARN from previous experiences, or they are damned to repeat the same mistakes. I generally distrust Argentines, rarely believe anything they say to me and if I do have to do any type of business deal with them, I know upfront that it will never be the way it was stated, that goes for everything from punctuality, to contracts, to inventory, payment terms, etc. Don't blame me for this - blame them, but again that is another impossibility - accepting responsibility!
Yes by all means I accept it is logical to learn from personal experiences and to compare and contrast this with other's experiences as is happening here. It is not logical to brand all Argentines as untrustworthy etc. Plenty of people here recount positive experiences which reinforce this point so I wont waste anyone's time with my share of positive anecdotes which isnt really my line of argument anyway.
In a business context it doesn't, to me, seem at all logical to try to do any business here based on your experiences as recounted but I havnt your perspective or life experiences obviously. And there must be something positive about you doing this surely? Anyhow my point is you have adapted and put up with it because you have learnt the rules.
I guess you could say the rule is dont trust anyone in business. That's not restricted to Buenos Aires chum
Best of luck with your business anyway and I hope you get more rewarding stuff coming your way in these trying times.
As for time-keeping that's typical southern european versus northern european/north american guidebook stuff and you can factor all that in without having to get too steamed up or dismissive of your fellow human beings. Two watches set at different times?
Umm tried to load this and it says message cant be accepted because short by 10 characters so hopefully it will now