Job Offer in Buenos Aires

[steveinbsas]

Wages do increase between 17 and 25%, especially in companies that pay 5000 pesos, which is not bad at all for Argentina. If you rent an apartment with a "garantia" you will be OK, or sharing with other foreigners (try here or in the "Shares apps" subgroup in Couchsurfing, Buenos Aires group). You will be over middle class local income for one person, and if you don{t go to eat to expat restaurants, it will be enough for going out, theater, cinemas, parties, etc etc. If you eat at home you will even be able to save a bit (especially if you share your flat, and if the flat was rented with a Garantia). I have seen many young foreigners teaching English in South East Asia that with 1000 USD share big flats, eat out all the time, have fun and even save 25%-40% of their wages. With 5000 pesos IN HAND you could save at least 15% of that, with 4150 pesos maybe not.

I remember being told that a guarantia required permanent residency (if an individual was trying to get one), but perhaps a DNI based on temporary residency will suffice. Perhaps the employer can provide the guarantia in spite of the rentor's immigration status.

What does your observation that "many young foreigners teaching English in South East Asia that with 1000 USD share big flats, eat out all the time, have fun and even save 25%-40% of their wages" have to do with anyone who wants to live in Argentina (and save money)?

Just curious...

 

[John.St]

When I commented that this job might not enchance your resume I had two things in mind: Will a future employer wonder how soon you will again be bitten by the international travel bug and, if he knows how little compensation you worked for in Argentina, will he be willing to offer you a decent salary in the first place? Perhaps you can get around both "objections" by saying you had a "paid internship" in Buenos Aires. I think they would buy that, especially if you go to grad or business school immediately after retruning to the States.

I have to disagree.

This may be so in the US(?) but in most parts of the world you then seek out companies, which do business with Argentina/companies in Arg. (or for that matter other Spanish speaking Southamerican countries) and you have a rare and valuable asset: Argentina and SA experience, you know the works (and even more valuable 'the work arounds').

 

[steveinbsas]

I have to disagree.

This may be so in the US(?) but in most parts of the world you then seek out companies, which do business with Argentina/companies in Arg. (or for that matter other Spanish speaking Southamerican countries) and you have a rare and valuable asset: Argentina and SA experience, you know the works (and even more valuable 'the work arounds').

How can you "disagree" with questions?

 

[John.St]

I remember being told that a guarantia required permanent residency (if an individual was trying to get one), but perhaps a DNI based on temporary residency will suffice. Perhaps the employer can provide the guarantia in spite of the rentor's immigration status.

You can buy a guarantía as you buy an insurance - as a matter of fact it is an insurance policy. Bought in a reputable company most dueños will accept them.

Another form for guarantía(-substitute) is to pay rent e.g. a year in advance (something which AFAIK is not allowed to be stated in the contract proper), but make sure that the contracts says that more conditions are defined in a postil/annex and to have the postil signed (every single page, front and back) and notarized as well as the contract.

 

[John.St]

How can you "disagree" with questions?

Easily, when it looks like a statement camouflaged as a question.

Edit: "Perhaps you can get around both "objections" by saying you had a "paid internship" in Buenos Aires."
To me this sentence is anticipating that the problem in the question exists. /edit

 

[steveinbsas]

You can buy a guarantía as you buy an insurance - as a matter of fact it is an insurance policy. Bought in a reputable company most dueños will accept them.

Thank you, but this doesn't answer the question as to whether permanent residency is required to "buy" a garantina or if temporary residency (as granted by a work visa) will suffice.

Another form for guarantía(-substitute) is to pay rent e.g. a year in advance (something which AFAIK is not allowed to be stated in the contract proper), but make sure that the contracts says that more conditions are defined in a postil/annex and to have the postil signed (every single page, front and back) and notarized as well as the contract.

If the OP pays rent a year in advance (based on the assumption that he will still be there in a year) he is a fool.

 

[John.St]

Thank you, but this doesn't answer the question as to whether permanent residency is required to "buy" a garantina or if temporary residency (as granted by a work visa) will suffice.

No, but it informs the OP of different options for guarantía.

 

[steveinbsas]

No, but it informs the OP of different options for guarantía.

Perhaps there is a reason the laws regarding garantias exist: Foreigners can't rent long term apartments or "buy" garantias so they don't get ripped off by the locals (or exceed the time to be in Argentina granted by their visas)?

On his own (as a foreigner without a DNI), the OP has NO ability to get a guarantia on his own in the first place.

You are not helping him with this "line of thinking."

It could end in disaster for him if the job doesn't work out.

 

[John.St]

Thank you, but this doesn't answer the question as to whether permanent residency is required to "buy" a garantina or if temporary residency (as granted by a work visa) will suffice.

You can buy this type of guarantía on a tourist visa.

If the OP pays rent a year in advance he is a fool.

Who else do you hate?

Lets's stop this nagging, it leads to nowhere.

 

[steveinbsas]

You can buy this type of guarantía on a tourist visa.
Who else do you hate?

Lets's stop this nagging, it leads to nowhere.

This has nothing to do with emotion (especially hate).

I've met many new arrivals who lost hope as well as money here after buying into the "easy immigration and work" dream in Argentina.

For far too many of them the dream turned into a nightmare.

And they just went home.