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[marksoc]

Again, Barrio Norte is the bubble. Is everybody in this forum rich? Well, if you like old women with tiny dogs and plastic surgeries Barrio Norte-Recoleta is the right place for you. If you are going for a place in the "bubble" for young people go directly to Palermo-Las Cañitas; if you like more gritty but touristy go for San Telmo (and is close to your job); if you like more authentic and central go for Abasto and maybe Caballito (the former is good if you like off-theater and alternative bars, the later has nice parks and it is an urban center in its own); if you want to be close to Palermo but experience a "real" barrio, go for Villa Crespo; if you like Tango and want a non-touristy place in the forbidden zone for rich expats, go for Boedo (you see, it is south of Cordoba Avenue, the limit of the bubble); if you want to live in a town inside the city go for Devoto; if you want middle-upper class ambiance and expectations, including paranoia, fashion, and macrobiotic restaurants, go for Belgrano and its sub-neighborhoods. Take a map of the city, decide how much time do you want to spend in public transportation each day (trains are faster, closer to metro lines is better), draw a circle, and choose according to your tastes.

 

[steveinbsas]

Barrio norte(depends where though) to San Nicolas is quite a walk, I would definitly go for a appartment within 10 blocks of your office

"Barrio Norte" has been used to describe a number of different areas but is not officially the name of any of them.

I am referring to Barrio Norte only as outlined the map on the home page of this website: http://www.enbuenosaires.com/. It does not include any part of Recoleta and this area doesn't have the "snobbish" feel of the better areas of Retiro, either.


I've seen other maps that show Barrio Norte as an area between Alto Palermo and Recoleta as well as just South Of Santra Fe near Colo Diez.

The map I am using has Barrio Norte located below Recoleta. The "boundries" would be Marcelo T. Alvear to the North and and 9 de Julio to the East. This would include Tribunales which is within a block of 9 de Julio. It looks like the southern boundry might be Corrientes. I wouldn't suggest the OP live more than ten blocks from the Microcenter, either.

I suggest working on one side of 9 de Juilo and living on the other, ideally between Av Santa Fe and Cordoba. If the OP can find a studio in his price rannge he will be quite fortunate. Most will be offered at higher (short term) rates but he might be able to negotiate a better rate if he "plans" to rent for a year or two.

Someone in this thread suggested he transfer a year's rent (in advance) from bank to bank to get the "local" rate, but I doubt he would want to pay that much up front (he would have to get the money into the country first and also have a bank account here). I imagine he plans to pay his rent on a monthly basis from the salary he will be paid here. Most landlords want to be paid in cash anyway.

 

[steveinbsas]

Again, Barrio Norte is the bubble. Is everybody in this forum rich? Well, if you like old women with tiny dogs and plastic surgeries Barrio Norte-Recoleta is the right place for you. If you are going for a place in the "bubble" for young people go directly to Palermo-Las Cañitas; if you like more gritty but touristy go for San Telmo (and is close to your job); if you like more authentic and central go for Abasto and maybe Caballito (the former is good if you like off-theater and alternative bars, the later has nice parks and it is an urban center in its own); if you want to be close to Palermo but experience a "real" barrio, go for Villa Crespo; if you like Tango and want a non-touristy place in the forbidden zone for rich expats, go for Boedo (you see, it is south of Cordoba Avenue, the limit of the bubble); if you want to live in a town inside the city go for Devoto; if you want middle-upper class ambiance and expectations, including paranoia, fashion, and macrobiotic restaurants, go for Belgrano and its sub-neighborhoods. Take a map of the city, decide how much time do you want to spend in public transportation each day (trains are faster, closer to metro lines is better), draw a circle, and choose according to your tastes.

I think "Barrio Norte" is the most missused real estate term in the city and real estate agents have created the confusion by trying to "equate" properties in "lesser" locations with Recoleta to attract clients.

If the OP wants to live near the center I suggest he start in Tribunales (9 de Juilo and Viamonte) and draw a semi circle (to the West) from there.

 

[PhilipDT]

I am referring to Barrio Norte only as outlined the map on the home page of this website: http://www.enbuenosaires.com/.

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This would include Tribunales which is within a block of 9 de Julio. It looks like the southern boundry might be Corrientes. I

If you click on the barrio description link for Barrio Norte on that map it shows up with a picture of congreso so I'm assuming the southern boundary would be closer to Yrigoyen if not farther south.

 

[steveinbsas]

If you click on the barrio description link for Barrio Norte on that map it shows up with a picture of congreso so I'm assuming the southern boundary would be closer to Yrigoyen if not farther south.

I wouldn't suggest the OP go "below" Corrientes and close to 9 de Julio I suggest staying North of Cordoba. If he starts his search in Tribunales he will be close to work and in an area that is less likely to include being a victim of crime as part of his cultural immersion.

I found an apartment for sale on the enbuenosaires website that was includeed in the Barrio Notre search. It was actually in Balvenera.

 

[citygirl]

Again, Barrio Norte is the bubble. Is everybody in this forum rich? Well, if you like old women with tiny dogs and plastic surgeries Barrio Norte-Recoleta is the right place for you. If you are going for a place in the "bubble" for young people go directly to Palermo-Las Cañitas; if you like more gritty but touristy go for San Telmo (and is close to your job); if you like more authentic and central go for Abasto and maybe Caballito (the former is good if you like off-theater and alternative bars, the later has nice parks and it is an urban center in its own); if you want to be close to Palermo but experience a "real" barrio, go for Villa Crespo; if you like Tango and want a non-touristy place in the forbidden zone for rich expats, go for Boedo (you see, it is south of Cordoba Avenue, the limit of the bubble); if you want to live in a town inside the city go for Devoto; if you want middle-upper class ambiance and expectations, including paranoia, fashion, and macrobiotic restaurants, go for Belgrano and its sub-neighborhoods. Take a map of the city, decide how much time do you want to spend in public transportation each day (trains are faster, closer to metro lines is better), draw a circle, and choose according to your tastes.

Every time I read these kind of things - I shake my head. In all of the barrios mentioned above, there are a lot more porteños living in them than extranjeros. Yes, even in Palermo. So how is Villa Crespo real but Palermo isn't?

 

[Barney]

Prolly it is for someone who cant afford to live in Palermo but wants to. Resentment is a bitch

 

[Barney]

@Steve:

I put the example of Thailand since is a 3rd World Country and with a low wage for 1st World standards it is possible to live and even save. I know people that do the same in BA, the trick is to share a big flat with other 2 people, especially if one is a local, and to live NOT in Palermo (Villa Crespo, or Almagro, anything outside the bubble).

I highly doubt there is a foreigner who earns his living only in BA as a employee is able to save much. If you can save it means sharing an appartment and cutting a lot back on stuff like entertainment, clothes and electronics and stuff like that.

If saving is your thing I suggest you move to another country

 

[marksoc]

I highly doubt there is a foreigner who earns his living only in BA as a employee is able to save much. If you can save it means sharing an appartment and cutting a lot back on stuff like entertainment, clothes and electronics and stuff like that.

I told you already how. Take the electronics out, with 5000 pesos you can pay rent, have fun, go out a lot, go to cheap restaurants and save money. If you can´t do that you obviously go to over-priced restaurants (anything over 80-100 pesos), take taxis, pay more than the rest in rent, drink a lot of alcohol in "cheto" bars etc etc. It is an expat thing, but a young professional can do different, and in real life they do, and I have seen it.

Palermo is not "real" like, let´s say Devoto, in the sense that does not have a traditional character that grew from its population, but was a (recent) real estate invention which pushed the original character of the place out of the window to make place to imports (both fashions and population). It is a gentrified neighborhood, and the concept includes loosening the original identity. Bad or good? Who knows, depends on your position, if you own real estate there, if you cared about the old ambiance, or if you paid rent there. But if you want to feel porteño from a "barrio", it is not the place. If you want to be a "palermitano" it obviously is.

 

[Barney]

I told you already how. Take the electronics out, with 5000 pesos you can pay rent, have fun, go out a lot, go to cheap restaurants and save money. If you can´t do that you obviously go to over-priced restaurants (anything over 80-100 pesos), take taxis, pay more than the rest in rent, drink a lot of alcohol in "cheto" bars etc etc. It is an expat thing, but a young professional can do different, and in real life they do, and I have seen it.

Palermo is not "real" like, let´s say Devoto, in the sense that does not have a traditional character that grew from its population, but was a (recent) real estate invention which pushed the original character of the place out of the window to make place to imports (both fashions and population). It is a gentrified neighborhood, and the concept includes loosening the original identity. Bad or good? Who knows, depends on your position, if you own real estate there, if you cared about the old ambiance, or if you paid rent there. But if you want to feel porteño from a "barrio", it is not the place. If you want to be a "palermitano" it obviously is.

If you save 10% of your 5000 peso income you only need to save a year to pay for your flight home and another year to pay for your stay

Good luck!!!!

And that is if you never have something happening to you in those 2 years, like getting robbed, your washer breaking down, you breaking a leg, etc,etc