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Why does everyone keep calling him a college student?! He won't be a student when he starts working. I graduated from college 5 years ago and I remember my first year out of college well. My first job was as an account manager with a gross salary of US $32,000. After taxes and and a deduction for health care my take home was US$1,900 a month, or US $22,800. Unfortunately, that was simply not enough to live in LA at the time. I had to move in with my parents to be able to save and have a social life. While yes he will be fresh out of college, expectations change from college to the year after college. You at least expect a salary to live decently. You don't expect to stay on the rice and beans diet. At least in my case and my friend's cases.

I think it's up to the OP to see what he values. Also it depends on the length of time he plans to stay. He's talking about several years. If it was a year I would say go for it but several years I wouldn't recommend. Money wise he won't have anything to show for it. There's no way you can save on that salary. So the question is what is he going to do when he decides to move back to the states with nothing to move back on? He won't have enough for a plane ticket home, let alone first and last month's rent to get on his feet. What if he wants to go to graduate school? These are all things that he should think about.

I'm not trying to crush dreams but be realistic. If I had planned my future prudently directly from college I would have been much better off now. You live and learn but I wish someone had mentioned all the above things I've just mentioned at the time.

That being said why don't you just come down and try the job out, see how it goes, and see how you can live on that salary. If you're able to make it on that salary, stay. If not, you can always go home. And I can assure you, you'll have that answer by the 1 year mark. Or have you thought about taking a year off to maybe come down here to learn Spanish or travel? Whatever you decide, good luck.
 
Better to work (and live well in the US) and come to BA on vacation and have a ball than live from hand to mouth in Argentina.[/quote]

This is where we disagree and to be honest your "old fart" nature is showing Steve ..we all have one short life to live ..if living in US with more money& vacationing 5-10 days abroad is your paradise then so beit...how short sighted, how limited...you learn so much by rejecting your own comfort zones and LIVING anothers..even if poor. We all end the same way, dust & ashes and I surely prefer my ashes well seasoned with lots of international experiences if even on the bread line but to each his own...!
 
LAtoBA said:
Why does everyone keep calling him a college student?! He won't be a student when he starts working. I graduated from college 5 years ago and I remember my first year out of college well. My first job was as an account manager with a gross salary of US $32,000. After taxes and and a deduction for health care my take home was US$1,900 a month, or US $22,800. Unfortunately, that was simply not enough to live in LA at the time. I had to move in with my parents to be able to save and have a social life. While yes he will be fresh out of college, expectations change from college to the year after college. You at least expect a salary to live decently. You don't expect to stay on the rice and beans diet. At least in my case and my friend's cases.

I think it's up to the OP to see what he values. Also it depends on the length of time he plans to stay. He's talking about several years. If it was a year I would say go for it but several years I wouldn't recommend. Money wise he won't have anything to show for it. There's no way you can save on that salary. So the question is what is he going to do when he decides to move back to the states with nothing to move back on? He won't have enough for a plane ticket home, let alone first and last month's rent to get on his feet. What if he wants to go to graduate school? These are all things that he should think about.

I'm not trying to crush dreams but be realistic. If I had planned my future prudently directly from college I would have been much better off now. You live and learn but I wish someone had mentioned all the above things I've just mentioned at the time.

That being said why don't you just come down and try the job out, see how it goes, and see how you can live on that salary. If you're able to make it on that salary, stay. If not, you can always go home. And I can assure you, you'll have that answer by the 1 year mark. Or have you thought about taking a year off to maybe come down here to learn Spanish or travel? Whatever you decide, good luck.

Since it take money to travel or just come here to learn Spanish Perhaps the OP could actually take the job and come here just to see how it goes, but if there's snowball's chance in hell of finding a decent paying job in his field in the USA I think it's irrational to come here and work for $16,000 USD a year. How could that possibly enhance a resume?

I know some will say it's better to do "what you want while you still have the chance," but the OP may be able to create much better chances for himself (and his future) in the US (where the official level of "poverty" is higher than $16,000 per year (even for a single person).
 
fifs2 said:
He's a student guys - let's leave the expats lifestyle behind and remember what it was to share a dingy appt., live on tinned food and no money...I think he'll have a ball on 5k pesos - it's a fantastic opportunity - go for it!


There's something I really agree with (post above).

You are young, you just come out of college and the next 15 years you'll be living are likely to be the wildest, the most important for what's next (<- that's smart), etc.

Just keep in mind that what you decide now will affect the mid/long term also, but aside of that, if your wish is to come and live in BA, obviously you can do it with 4.250 pesos if it's what you want to do !

It's something you can do at your age and even if you have to go back home for money purposes, you'll have lived an incredible experience in BA & in Argentina. When you'll be 40 and above, doing so will be more difficult !

Go for it ! And enjoy it
 
fifs2 said:
He's a student guys - let's leave the expats lifestyle behind and remember what it was to share a dingy appt., live on tinned food and no money..

Exactly. It was living hell, made tolerable by nights of drunkenness and casual sex. Good times for sure....but once you get older and realize you can do all that and more with money in your pocket, you realize how crappy of an existence it actually was.
 
Xeneizes said:
Hello everyone,

I applied for a job in Buenos Aires and have received an offer. The opportunity is tremendously exciting to me for a variety of reasons. My father grew up in the city and even went to high school a few blocks from where the company is, so it would be a great experience to go and live there. The firm is in consulting and would allow me to explore the business and consulting world more since I'm not really sure what I'd like to do after finishing my undergraduate degree in engineering but feel I could enjoy myself in this industry. Their daily operations are in English and deal with many English speaking clients but most if not all of the employees are fluent in Spanish. I would be comfortable in the work environment while being immersed in a city that speaks a different language. The opportunity to possibly master a second language (I would call myself proficient now, but far from fluent) is really once in a lifetime.

What an awesome opportunity to be presented with at this stage in your life. Yes, tremendously exciting and commercially advantageous in many ways.

Argentina is truly a great country. Here you'll enjoy a great city with a deep history, people with a love for culture and a passion for life. You'll make friends, international contacts in business which will help you in the future and you'll learn a different perspective on so called western values.

With the money they're offering you, cultural immersion is guaranteed. While it's an important factor to consider when living here, it's only an enabler. What you take from Buenos Aires (and give) is entirely up to you. Some westerners find Buenos Aires difficult to live in and it's true, it's a very challenging place but it's a great teacher too. You'll learn much about your father, your roots and yourself while here. Others have stated that if you can survive in this country then you will flourish anywhere. I tend to agree.

I wish you all the best with your decision.
 
LAtoBA said:
Exactly. It was living hell, made tolerable by nights of drunkenness and casual sex. Good times for sure....but once you get older and realize you can do all that and more with money in your pocket, you realize how crappy of an existence it actually was.


Living hell...? How sad...for me it was living paradise..and now Im wealthy (sorry for boasting) I see it no different...life has its phases and each one its necessary characteristics....:rolleyes:
 
steveinbsas said:
Since it take money to travel or just come here to learn Spanish Perhaps the OP could actually take the job and come here just to see how it goes, but if there's snowball's chance in hell of finding a decent paying job in his field in the USA I think it's irrational to come here and work for $16,000 USD a year. How could that possibly enhance a resume?

Do you understand the subtext behind the OPs desire to come here? The OP appears to be on a journey of discovery and what he's searching for cannot be found at home. He sees opportunity in Argentina and would like to leverage his education while seeking answers to questions about his life.

Not all things in life can be financially rationalised. Money is important but its just a tool we use to achieve outcomes.
 
steveinbsas said:
Better to work (and live well in the US) and come to BA on vacation and have a ball than live from hand to mouth in Argentina.

fifs2 said:
This is where we disagree and to be honest your "old fart" nature is showing Steve ..we all have one short life to live ..if living in US with more money& vacationing 5-10 days abroad is your paradise then so beit...how short sighted, how limited...you learn so much by rejecting your own comfort zones and LIVING anothers..even if poor. We all end the same way, dust & ashes and I surely prefer my ashes well seasoned with lots of international experiences if even on the bread line but to each his own...!

Yep, I'm an old fart. And I'm not really qualified to give anyone advice about jobs since I've never really had one.

I hope the OP can have an international experience, but if he is going to be a worker bee all of his life he will only be a drone in Argentina and how much fuure is there in being a drone? And where will he find the bread lines in Argentina if he can't make ends meet?

Though I'd been to Europe and Austraila and Mexico in my 20's 30's and 40's, my international experience really began at 50 when I moved to Mexico (already an old fart), but I was never happy in Mexico and BA was just a "cheap" substitue for Paris (where I'm always happy but can't afford to live..even if the bread was free).
 
fifs2 said:
Living hell...? How sad...for me it was living paradise..and now Im wealthy (sorry for boasting) I see it no different...life has its phases and each one its necessary characteristics....:rolleyes:

It's called humor, mixed with a bit of hyperbole and reality. You really took that way too seriously.
 
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