Keeping the quarantine versus adding ICUs

[Bajo_cero2]

I wonder

-- SINCE we are being quarantined to "flatten the curve" - that is, make sure the intensive care bed inventory is enough for virus patients...

-- AND with much of the country paralyzed, millions of pesos are
a) Lost in nonexistent tax revenues and
b) Disbursed to those now working in food supplies, salary assistance, etc...

-- THEREFORE, why not use those millions to add IC beds to hospitals, and lift the quarantine?

No matter how long we shelter in place, this virus will run its course. Sooner or later - or until a safe and effective vaccine is available - most of us are bound to get if.

Just saying

The 2 local factories of ventilators were working 24/7 since march. There were 7500 beds with ventilatora and now we have about 12.500.
if you lift the quarantine, they are not going to be enough and the economy is going to fall anyway, look at Brasil. The economy isfalling more than Argentina with a lot of deaths.

 

[dilmah]

Exactly. Sheltering entire country in place is the most expensive way to handle the pandemic. Ever.

 

[Iznogud]

They have given the economy the coup de grâce and will blame the Covid for their inability to prevent the country's economy from going over the cliff.

It was on life support before january and there were no plans to save it. The pandemic is sort of a blessing in disguise, Alberto will be the people's savior but the country will not survive the treatment. Nobody's fault.

Later, they will buy what's left for a song

Iz

 

[Renzi]

They have given the economy the coup de grâce and will blame the Covid for their inability to prevent the country's economy from going over the cliff.

It was on life support before january and there were no plans to save it. The pandemic is sort of a blessing in disguise, Alberto will be the people's savior but the country will not survive the treatment. Nobody's fault.

Later, they will buy what's left for a song

Iz

The global economy is going over a cliff because of the pandemic. The leader of the free world and its regional allies are all doing much worse than Argentina at the moment. Alberto has been president for about 7 months, 4 or which have been during a pandemic. How exactly is he to blame for the state of the economy before he was in office?

 

[on the brink]

....Alberto will be the people's savior but the country will not survive the treatment. Nobody's fault.

As the old joke goes, "the surgery was successful but the patient died".

 

[antipodean]

The 2 local factories of ventilators were working 24/7 since march. There were 7500 beds with ventilatora and now we have about 12.500..

The issue is that ICU beds and ventilators are useless without specialized doctors and nurses to manage them around the clock and conduct specialized cleaning And maintenance after each patient. These things alone won’t save lives. The most effective and proven things to save lives is testing, contact tracing and isolation, something that Argentina did not prioritize early on in the outbreak in favor bulk buying “trophies” like ventilators and ICU beds instead.

 

[on the brink]

This pandemic is a gift from the Gods to Cristina and Alberto. It keeps us terrified and dependent on government handouts, lets them free all his jailed cronies, hides their lack of a credible economic plan, and provides them with the perfect scapegoat to blame when the country goes to pot.

The coming economic tsunami will surely be blamed on Macri, Clarin, and Covid-19. All Hail the Conquering Fernandezes!

 

[Ceviche]

I believe they are returning to phase 1 from 1st July.

 

[Renzi]

This pandemic is a gift from the Gods to Cristina and Alberto. It keeps us terrified and dependent on government handouts, lets them free all his jailed cronies, hides their lack of a credible economic plan, and provides them with the perfect scapegoat to blame when the country goes to pot.

The coming economic tsunami will surely be blamed on Macri, Clarin, and Covid-19. All Hail the Conquering Fernandezes!

If they're doing it wrong, then can you give an example of who're doing it better? Trump and little Jared? Bolsonaro? If the current economic downturn was unique to Argentina, then perhaps you might have a point. But even before the pandemic, Latin America as a whole was projected to have either zero or slightly negative growth, with the exception of Peru.

 

[on the brink]

Tiny Uruguay is doing better. Far better.

But then, when the pandemic started, every government employee earning above US$1800 a month took a 20% salary cut. They used those savings to finance a testing, contact tracing and isolation program.

Now, aside from the border closing, they are back to normal.