No Hiding And No Running With Delta

[germano]

Maybe instead of insulting each other we can try go back to the real issue?

I find nothing saying purchases made abroad with foreign CC could be taxed...

It was already explained earlier. The important thing is the sales city. With a flight originating inside Argentina the Delta website uses a sales city in Argentina. So the purchase is technically in Argentina - hence the tax. Why they charge it eventhough it is a foreign cc? Probably because their system cannot handle two separate use cases non Argentine vs. Argentine cc.

 

[internationalguy]

I said it before. They're covering their asses. If we live here and can't agree on how the law works, how can you expect executives in Atlanta to understand. This is why I keep saying get the ticket locally in front of a real person who understands and can override it.

 

[nikad]

I said it before. They're covering their asses. If we live here and can't agree on how the law works, how can you expect executives in Atlanta to understand. This is why I keep saying get the ticket locally in front of a real person who understands and can override it.

That is the key. If there is a law it has to be ruled. This money some airlines are taking wrongfully is going somewhere... ie their pockets, and something must be done. Bajo Cero seems to agree taht it is correct, well I have found nothing supporting that purchases made abroad by non residents must pay income tax advance, hence my complaint. This needs to be brought to airlines attention through their legal depts as it is a mistake that end users are paying for. I do not debate the law, but what happened to the OP is certainly NOT the law.

 

[dennisr]

It started with this when AFIP mandated the 20%:
http://www.iprofesional.com/notas/157022-Extranjeros-no-residentes-tambin-pagarn-pasajes-con-recargo-del-20-por-ciento
Then AFIP upped the ante to 35% with resolution 3550.
The next move was the Central Bank's Communication 5499: http://www.iprofesional.com/notas/175788-Ms-cepo-al-dlar-el-Banco-Central-establece-nuevas-restricciones-a-las-agencias-de-viajes
Nothing got nullified.

 

[Sockhopper]

Bajo_Cero, would you please inform me how applicable rule(s) would work in the following scenarios:

If a foreign woman is either a proper temporary resident OR permanent resident of Argentina and earns no money there and therefore owes no income tax to Argentina, how would she get that 35% 'tax' she paid for airfares she purchased on her foreign credit card back since it cannot be deducted from Argentine income tax she owes for the reason that she owes none?

What if one fact only is changed: the woman is residing in Argentina as a foreign resident 'pensionista' alone OR as such under her foreign spouse's pensonista' residency (which is what married foreign women about to retire to Argentina had to do when my husband and I looked into 'pensionista status in 2012)? How would she get that 35% back when her status as a 'pensionista' is merely 'piggybacked' off her husband as a type of addendum to him even though the foreign credit card she used is hers alone and she pays that credit card bill from her personal bank account in the couple's country?

Am I right to think that nobody actually gets that 35% back as cash because it can only be used as a tax deduction and NOT as a tax rebate?? If so, this would mean that a legal foreign resident who earned no income in Arg would not get that 35% she paid back in any manner whereas someone who earned money in Argentina (and paid taxes) would as a tax deduction.


I know you earlier said that permanent residents only can claim this 35% tax back but pensionistas are obliged to transfer a stated sum of money from abroad to their Argentine bank account every month for 3 years from the date they become temporary residents. It would be discriminatory if they couldn't get that 35% tax back because they're temporary residents and because they happen to not owe any Argentine income tax when they've made such a heavy financial commitment to become temporary residents.

I understand that if one owes a tax, he owes it even if it's onerous. It's what happens after he's paid this 35% online to an airline (not reimbursed by the airline) when who gets it back or not and how from the Argentine government becomes hairy. I'm not used to a tax tagged onto a consumer purchase becoming melded with income tax obligations and deductions.

 

[germano]

I said it before. They're covering their asses. If we live here and can't agree on how the law works, how can you expect executives in Atlanta to understand. This is why I keep saying get the ticket locally in front of a real person who understands and can override it.

I believe it is just that their reservation system cannot handle automatically two different taxes (0% vs. 35%) based on the origin of the credit card.

 

[GS_Dirtboy]

I have confirmed with American Airlines that I was not charged the ZK tax, or any other "international surcharge." Paid with my US credit card and my travel originates in Buenos Aires.

 

[Alicia karr]

That's good news! What venue did you use to purchase the tickets?

 

[nlaruccia]

Nikad, you go girl.

 

[GS_Dirtboy]

That's good news! What venue did you use to purchase the tickets?

Purchased online AA.com