No Hiding And No Running With Delta

[Bajo_cero2]

I know the 35% charge is not the law. The website doesn't let you correct their mistake. I won't enter another debate on this like the last time. My advice, go to the ticket office. It will matter.

What is it then?

 

[Alicia karr]

Point of clarification. The charge WASNT because I bought the ticket in Argentina. I bought the ticket from Delta US with a US credit card and address from their United States based website. Therefore the charge was not because of where the ticket was issued.(was issued in US) It's simply put on by Delta and I suspect many other airlines (but disguised under code)for FLIGHTS that ORIGINATE in BA.
I could've used my ARG CC But thought THAT would trigger the tax. Anyway I'd blow through my remaining dollars changing them to pay it off!
I've used the third party sites before but have had some problems with notifications and changes made to my itineraries that I didn't get...but yes, as long as you give the airlines your FF info when you check in you'll get the mileage. I also benefitted with double mileage using my Delta CC on a. delta flight. Wouldn't have gotten that with third party sites. But maybe would have avoided the 35%. Again everyone read the fine print on your fare breakdowns and always be on the lookout for a large number hat roughly approximates 35% of the fare. Usually referred to as ZK or fuel surcharge. Joe Gillis thanks for the insider comments. And thanks to all who investigated their purchases and imaginary ones.

 

[Bajo_cero2]

This ZK IN DOLLARS is a total ripoff! If you are a perm resident here or have a job, get an Arg credit card, if you are an expat with no access to local cc or perma tourist, buy through a third party and change the sales city and pay in dollars. This is blatantly discriminatory and inconstitutional I have never heard in my life of a local tax charged in a foreign currency!!! This should be reported and plastered on all airlines social media sites to bring some attention. And I would report it to my embassy as well.

Are you serious?
How can it be discriminatory if this applies for everyone? Or you expect privileges for those who broke the immigration law and evade taxes?
I just goy back 13.000 pesos of this 35% when i paid the income tax.

 

[Bajo_cero2]

Point of clarification. The charge WASNT because I bought the ticket in Argentina. I bought the ticket from Delta US with a US credit card and address from their United States based website. Therefore the charge was not because of where the ticket was issued.(was issued in US) It's simply put on by Delta and I suspect many other airlines (but disguised under code)for FLIGHTS that ORIGINATE in BA.
I could've used my ARG CC But thought THAT would trigger the tax. Anyway I'd blow through my remaining dollars changing them to pay it off!
I've used the third party sites before but have had some problems with notifications and changes made to my itineraries that I didn't get...but yes, as long as you give the airlines your FF info when you check in you'll get the mileage. I also benefitted with double mileage using my Delta CC on a. delta flight. Wouldn't have gotten that with third party sites. But maybe would have avoided the 35%. Again everyone read the fine print on your fare breakdowns and always be on the lookout for a large number hat roughly approximates 35% of the fare. Usually referred to as ZK or fuel surcharge. Joe Gillis thanks for the insider comments. And thanks to all who investigated their purchases and imaginary ones.

Well, income tax is based on the place where your residency is. If you buy a ticket where it starts in Argentina, then they asume WELL that you live here.
I don t understand what are the complains about? Usually i read here how stupid the administration is. BUT when they do things properly and you cannot evade taxes just using a foreign card, the it is discriminatory? come on!

 

[internationalguy]

Bajo cero, you didn't quote my entire post. I agree that the govt is entitled to charge whatever tax they want. We can't pay with pesos anymore unless we're residents. I pay all my tickets with USDs or foreign cards. I should not be charged 35% then. The law says the 35% is a tax based on whatever anticipo you want to call it but only applies when you purchase international travel in pesos. Please don't abbreviate quote my posts because you take them out of context.

 

[Bajo_cero2]

Bajo cero, you didn't quote my entire post. I agree that the govt is entitled to charge whatever tax they want. We can't pay with pesos anymore unless we're residents. I pay all my tickets with USDs or foreign cards. I should not be charged 35% then. The law says the 35% is a tax based on whatever anticipo you want to call it but only applies when you purchase international travel in pesos. Please don't abbreviate quote my posts because you take them out of context.

I didn´t. Whoever quote you before did.
Here you are confused. Income tax is base on where you live no mater your legal status. Nobody cares how do you pay.
If you pay taxes, then you get it back. If you evade taxes, they just collect.

 

[internationalguy]

I'm not debating income tax. I know they link the 35% directly to income tax... but they only collect it (speaking of purchasing foreign travel only) when you pay with taxes. I have no Iintentions of questioning your legal expertise, not at all, I just think you didn't understand what I meant.

 

[ben]

The ZK tax is 35% of the base fare and some but not all of the taxes (normally YQ).

Miles are awarded completely irrespective of the way the ticket was purchased. As long as the airline is advised - whether by the travel agent, or directly by the passenger - of the passenger's frequent flyer number, the miles will be credited (if the itinerary qualifies for miles).

Re the argument re legality - the reason everyone is upset is because there is a discrepancy between what everyone here understands is the real reason for the tax (= to recoup the difference between the price the BCRA is obliged to pay the airlines for their pesos and the price of the dollar on the free market) and the reason stated by the government (to combat evasion of other taxes etc etc, by charging - completely by coincidence - the exact difference between those rates). According to the obvious reason, charging the tax on something paid in dollars is a non-starter; according to the stated reason, there is room to assume that people here are residents. Either way, charging the tax on dollar purchases by nonresidents is rather hard to justify.

The easiest way out of the situation is to either issue the ticket in dollars with a non-Argentine travel agent, who would not charge ZK, or to purchase the ticket in pesos, which a travel agent can normally arrange even in case of non-residents. I work with a travel agency that can do this.

 

[citygirl]

So citygirl, that fare with the flight originating in BSAs does show the ZK charge or something similar? On American?

I tried to highlight in my post but formatting wasn't perfect. However as you can see, the ZK is there in the first option where I bolded (sales city BsAs/paid in pesos) and not in the second option (US sales city/paid in dollars). I did purchase directly from the AA website and didn't get charged the tax per the breakdown. (However the base fare of each leg of the trip was approximately $100 USD higher than buying through Argentina which negated a big chunk of the ZK savings).

Glad Greg2231 chimed in, he's the expert.

 

[nikad]

Are you serious?
How can it be discriminatory if this applies for everyone? Or you expect privileges for those who broke the immigration law and evade taxes?
I just goy back 13.000 pesos of this 35% when i paid the income tax.

Quoting prices in dollars is illegal, yet is it legal to quote and charge taxes in dollars? Sounds very strange to me. Do you know by chance of a rule or regulation supporting this? I had never heard before that an individual in Arg could be taxed in usd...