Obama - man of peace

jedard

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harpo said:
Have to admit he hasn't actually done anything to deserve this yet. But can't wait to hear the spluttering, purple-faced rage from our usual left/right extremist posters.

Let's hear it boys and gals!
Whats to say, they would give it to anyone. Why not Christina!
 

pikto99

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have remade America's international image and now it is the most admired nation in the world. The improved good will can bring tangible results over time."
What???????????????????
Which "goods"??????
Another 40Ks of troops in Afghan?
Multiple bailouts over my neck to "those who qualify"??????
And frankly - they do qualify.

"you make a lot of fair points. It's almost as if obama will have this award to live up to for the rest of his presidency. Ultimately, I think they were a year or two too early, but you make a fair argument."
I thought that steering it's country to piece is kinda natural for any President. O-o-ops-s, I am wrong, our Presidents needs to have advance payments in order to do so...
But Obama does nothing and promised very little.
Once again, GWB and Obama are working for the same group.

And this is no History re-writingin here. We're in deeper shit with either one now. We're going down even deeper with paper-printing facilties of FRS, "wisdomly" nortured and protected by current Chief of Our Staff.
Btw, Bernanke should be awarded with "The Awesomest Of All The Time Economiculous Espiritous For Humansification" with full "Pure Exposure to Ultimate Bodacity" rankage. Hello everyone, the curcus is in town!!!

And then look at M.Moore on last night Hanunnity (Mahonnity?... Toonninity...?) Show (did he misses door to the "Soup", perhaps?)

Here is another advocate for 9/11 "terrorists attack". "Sure the terrorists were there but they are just some criminals... (like Amore Del Ray?? - mine) nothing serious, really ..". I cannot beleive he says that.

For Squacky Spike Lee Fitured Film!!!!
How many times these "advocates" has to be smacked into evidences and magic evidence disappearence????
Why do we keep paying for all this crap?
 

redrum

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InjuredBadly said:
Obama has not been able to do much because the right wing nut cases hate him because he is black and a Democrat. I hope you people are staying in Argentina for a long time, because we have enough jerks in the US without you. By the way I am not black and I was a supporter of Hillary Clinton lol

IB, i have to say it sounds like you've been getting some heavy doses of the media propaganda. TURN OFF YOUR TV.

to say that people hate obama because he is black and a democrat is ridiculous. could it be that people disagree with his policies and the direction he is taking the country? no, it couldn't possibly be that.

here's the thing, it's not about obama. it's not about democrats or republicans. why? THEY BOTH WORK FOR THE SAME TEAM. there is no difference between the 2 parties. no matter which party becomes elected, the result is the same.

break your conditioning of the false left/right paradigm. stop wasting your time worrying about socialism vs capitalism, repub vs dem, left vs right...etc.

it's like a don king boxing match. he controls both fighters.

we must all stop insisting that obama is a candidate of hope and change. obama is no better than bush. bush was no better clinton and so on.

obama is not the savior that you and so many have been hoping for. he is an actor. he has been groomed by the elite specifically for this job. you don't get to be president of the united states unless you are already an employee of the elite. he is a confidence man. he's a slick talking salesman who travels the world selling and advancing the agenda of wall street, the mega corporations and mega rich.

i suggest you watch The Obama Deception documentary in order to have a real understanding of how our government is infested with alumni of goldman sachs, council on foreign relations and the trilateral commission.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw
 

pikto99

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At some degree I'd say Obama is not even advance anything anymore simply bc everything is already under "their" fingertips. There are some "hard-boiled" ones like North Korea, Cuba or Venesuela but they are just an itch for them, not really danger. After USSR has been sold out there is no more outstanding contenders to balance their apetite to rule the World. China is filled out with global companies production lines and investments so no matter how they might be "disagree" at UN talks, they wouldn't do a Grand Sh... to stand against the global elite. Bc the elite in control of them, just as they control Japan. Look in the history of these countries.

So my point is that Obama is a spokesperson, and nothing else, as redrum says.
And to pass a few words about someone's claiming his "truly socialistic" agenda, I'd tell you what a socialistic agenta in reality is. Bc I used to live in there. So mandating your own citizens to purchase their own health insurance under penalty of tax credit in up to $4000/per capita annually is NOT FORKING SOCIALIZM. It's a prison or concentration camp.

In socialist country our Government used to PAY for you medical expenses, so it was free. Do not start on me for a quality of medical service back then. I used to have full spectrum analysis and preparation for eye surgery at Moscow's Stanislav Fedorov's Microsurgical Eye Center back in 1990 and anyone who wants to get it done just have to call and go there for 1 (day). Ask yourself, how much it was back in US to Americans. Did they EVEN had such service back then.
And if you earn something special or come from "service" you could be treated in places like Kirov's Military Medical Academy in S.Petersburg where I've seen soldiers from Egypt and Vietnam so badly wounded, there were our guys from territorial troops as well. And boy, these doctors were trully magicians.
With no single penny out your pocket.

So whoever is looning out there about Obama's Cabinet "socialistic agenda" please, do me your favor, go outside and get some fresh air, throw away your "happy pills" and think again.
 

gouchobob

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pikto99 said:
At some degree I'd say Obama is not even advance anything anymore simply bc everything is already under "their" fingertips. There are some "hard-boiled" ones like North Korea, Cuba or Venesuela but they are just an itch for them, not really danger. After USSR has been sold out there is no more outstanding contenders to balance their apetite to rule the World. China is filled out with global companies production lines and investments so no matter how they might be "disagree" at UN talks, they wouldn't do a Grand Sh... to stand against the global elite. Bc the elite in control of them, just as they control Japan. Look in the history of these countries.

So my point is that Obama is a spokesperson, and nothing else, as redrum says.
And to pass a few words about someone's claiming his "truly socialistic" agenda, I'd tell you what a socialistic agenta in reality is. Bc I used to live in there. So mandating your own citizens to purchase their own health insurance under penalty of tax credit in up to $4000/per capita annually is NOT FORKING SOCIALIZM. It's a prison or concentration camp.

In socialist country our Government used to PAY for you medical expenses, so it was free. Do not start on me for a quality of medical service back then. I used to have full spectrum analysis and preparation for eye surgery at Moscow's Stanislav Fedorov's Microsurgical Eye Center back in 1990 and anyone who wants to get it done just have to call and go there for 1 (day). Ask yourself, how much it was back in US to Americans. Did they EVEN had such service back then.
And if you earn something special or come from "service" you could be treated in places like Kirov's Military Medical Academy in S.Petersburg where I've seen soldiers from Egypt and Vietnam so badly wounded, there were our guys from territorial troops as well. And boy, these doctors were trully magicians.
With no single penny out your pocket.

So whoever is looning out there about Obama's Cabinet "socialistic agenda" please, do me your favor, go outside and get some fresh air, throw away your "happy pills" and think again.
I guess I'm slow, what is your point, return to golden days of the good old USSR or what?
 

jp

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redrum said:
break your conditioning of the false left/right paradigm.
Do you ever challenge yourself on this view? Identify what the actual tangible, noticeable differences are between parties, in terms of the policies they propose and implement, and what their effect is on public life?

The realities of politics lie in the gaps. The "trifling" things like abortion, gay marriage, medical funding, budget prioritisation etc. Things that have an enormous impact on millions of people. Skews and changes may be much more subtle than people screaming "socialist! fascist!" would have you believe, but thats not to say they aren't there. Sure, both parties agree on more than they disagree on. This is news?

Take a macro view of policy under the clinton era, then the bush era, and if you honestly don't think there's a single policy or change made in american society which wouldn't have happened under the others stewardship you aren't looking hard enough, or you aren't prepared to accept the differences.

Its the same with pretty much any stable, developed country around the world. There's more agreement than disagreement. Differences tend to be subtle, and fall along ideological lines the electorate can understand.

I don't know who is arguing that left and right represent totally different things. Anyone who does fundamentally doesn't understand what politics is, or what governments do. But equally, I don't understand how people can claim there's no difference between the two. A cursory examination of policy and history demonstrate how the differences are manifested.
 

pikto99

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To gouchobob.
No, that was not my point. That proposition is beyond "point of return", unfortunately.
My point is that any public "humble opinion" about Obama's socialistic intentions are stupid.

To jp.
There is no difference in 2 parties, nor they intentions to rule by their own agenda, not by mine and yours.
How many years Greenspan was poisoning Treasure under Bush?
And what "honest and strict" Obama did?
Oh, he is so innocent, right?

Is he trying to re-view or do anything other then ask these f... greedy shmako's to reverse their bonuses? He supposed to ask for a warrant for them!!!!!!
So did Bush cronies were boiling Iraq and Afghan War in your interest?
Are you completely gone? Do you have any slightest idea what is this for?
Or you're one of these CNN-driven activists and hanging banner "Let's catch Bin Laden" on your bumper?

What do you know about official lies about that "Nigerian yellow cake" scandal that laid "reasoning" for occupation of Iraq?
What do you know about Taliban fundamentals and propositions? How about Nur Muhammed Taraki? Karmal, Shah Masud?
And do you want my opinion on mandating to purchase health insuranse policy by every citizen under penalty and fines?
Does this sounds socialistic to you?

About "sexual minorities" rights?
Do you want to be called traditionally "dad" or "my relative's partner"? Do you want to have "mixed sex" private rooms in our schools? Sh... man, you're a "real" democrat.
Ligalizing illegal immigrants? Sure, this is just perfect time, isn't?
Unable to control our Southern Border? Are you forking kidding me?????

Jacking up your property tax (cars and motorcyles) even without your concent by 25% this year? O-oh, they will need some dough to "do the books" next year, right?
Do you want me to educate you about drugs entering this country?
OK, did I missed alot?

Does all of the above gets to life right from your "wish list"?
So, again, what is the difference to funding mujaheddins in 1980 and fighting them back now? None, just making money both ways behind the scene. And all of a sudden, the money (in billions $$$$$) that has being "invested" (by taking from taxpayers) in these wars and post-war development yesterday mostly GONE due to local Government's corruption and bribes back to the "contractors". As your wishes continued, these money HAS BEEN LOST. FOREVER.
Or, when under your "new" Administration our schools still begging for school supplies and telling that there is no funding to pay for a soccer coach at your son's middle, bc of "NO MONEY", where do you look for an answer?
 

Ries

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It is curious to me that the right wing, LaRouchian posts on this website always seem to come from people who never post about Parilla, or Moneda problems on the Collectivos, or about where to get your shoes resoled- in other words, not from people who actually seem to have ever been to Buenos Aires.

Instead, we have a continuing parade of angry white guys who pop up here, post 20 or 30 vehement anti liberal posts, and then disappear, to be replaced with another angry white guy with another mysterious meaningless nickname.

No real names, no real insight into living in Argentina, no continuity or mostly, humanity. And never wrong about anything, or self doubting in any way.
Keep sitting around the computer, guys, the emperor of the world will be emailing you any day now to get your opinions on how to run things...

So, all you politically correct in your own mind type guys, who hate Obama so much- what is YOUR favorite pizza in BA?

PS- mine is La Mezzetta, out on Alvarez Thomas.
 

pikto99

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Ries said:
It is curious to me that the right wing, LaRouchian posts on this website always seem to come from people who never post about Parilla, or Moneda problems on the ... .
Listen, you're maybe unconditionally happy to think that finding a good 'eatery" is the main goal of this group? You're in the political branch of this portal. Hello-o-o!!!:confused:
Btw, I am "the white boy" and I am typing not against "thick molasses" color of skin of Mr. Obama. We're talking what he had done, or better not done and most likely will never do.

This is EXPATS forum, can you read?
 
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