Obamacare: Do Expats Need To Buy Health Insurance?

[camberiu]

I call this poetic justice......

"Liberal Blogger Furious Over His Obamacare Premiums (What The Hell Kind Of Reform Is This?)"

 

[Dublin2BuenosAires]

I can hear the alarm bells ringing from here...."we got one boys, we fcking got one!...we found one who doesn't want to pay!"

 

[camberiu]

I can hear the alarm bells ringing from here...."we got one boys, we fcking got one!...we found one who doesn't want to pay!"

One? Right.......


Unions Rage Against the Affordable Care Act

 

[che]

Anyone can go to Kasier's calculator and check out the cost of the plans by zip code.

kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/

The Bronze plan, which guarantees bankruptcy if you actually get sick, the Silver, which likely leads to bankrptucy if you get sick, and Gold plan, which is unaffordable to most, in all their glory may be calculated.

The question is why did Kaiser raise the guys rates in camberiu's article above... well if the government mandates the minimums you can see on the calculator why wouldn;t the market raise its rates to what the Executive and his Congress deem affordable? It's a no brainer, if you understand markets.

So using the calculator assuming a family making $100K, two adults 40 and one kid 5, I find annual plan for silver is $8576 premium with $12700 deductable. That is about $21K per year in exposure. That is amazing to me. Omint costs me less than $300 per month - $4K year - and pretty much covers everything. The premium in the states is mroe than 100% more expensive with a deductable every year that could buy a car, a europe vaction, fund retirement, send the kid to a real school where he might be educated, or whatever else you want to do with your money.

Anyone can argue all they want that it only hits 2% of the rich people, or 15% of the upper middle rich, or any other devisive sound bite they prefer to beleive and spit out as if they know what they are talking about.

Looking at the Kasier calculator tells the tale. These under informed voices are rendered absurd on their face when looking at the calculator. Fact is governemnt mandated premiums and deductables are going to swmap everyone, if you work and pay taxes... PERIOD.

Seems to me many folks don;t have any skin in the game. But when they go get a bronze and then get pneumonia and then go bankrupt they'll learn the truth...

 

[camberiu]

The question is why did Kaiser raise the guys rates in camberiu's article above... well if the government mandates the minimums you can see on the calculator why wouldn;t the market raise its rates to what the Executive and his Congress deem affordable? It's a no brainer, if you understand markets.

Obamacare was written by the healthcare companies for their own benefit. It was true back in the 90s when this idea was first proposed by the GOP, and it is true now, after being embraced by the Democrats.

 

[ajoknoblauch]

What's really at stake: http://tinyurl.com/n67r9ee

 

[citygirl]

Anyone who claims to know what they are talking about is either ignorant, a liar, or has a grand vision of themself. Whatever... the fact is healthcare cots and taxes are going up for all. You can point to all the websites you want. The bottom line is the pocket book.

Oh the irony of it all...

 

[ajoknoblauch]

Obamacare was written by the healthcare companies for their own benefit. It was true back in the 90s when this idea was first proposed by the GOP, and it is true now, after being embraced by the Democrats.

For all its shortcomings, the ACA has already greatly expanded the number of US residents with medical coverage, benefiting everybody in the country.

 

[camberiu]

Even John Stewart, the democrat's eternal cheerleader and ass kisser, cannot help but take shots at the $500 million dollar Obamacare website. For the record, the most expensive online game ever built, Star Wars - The Old Republic, with complex 3D graphics and animation, millions of simultaneous users worldwide, millions of transactions a week, thousands of lines of spoken dialogue done by almost 100 voice actors, did not cost half of that. And it works.

http://www.thedailys...-alan-greenspan

 

[che]

For all its shortcomings, the ACA has already greatly expanded the number of US residents with medical coverage, benefiting everybody in the country.

I think the drivel from your dog's mouth is contagious.

This kind of garbage is simply not true and everyone knows it. In fact, far more people have been or will be dropped from existing plans (about 16 million people will be dropped from their exisiting plans) than have signed up. Simple fact with a source unlike the wishful drivel dripping out of your mouth.

Source: http://healthpolicya...ealth.html#more

I suppose for those who follow the messiah this inconvenient truth does not contradict their messiah's words - "if you have exisitng coverage you like you can keep it."

Given Obama is the messiah for many it is not surprising that the believers spew drivel with false platitudes and hope... pathetic really, but not surprising. Truly pathetic, however.

The Obama faithful have no problem with drones, Guantanamo, spying, Yemen, Pakistan, Libya, Egypt, Tunisia etc. As long as their messiah is at the top doing it, all that was unjust under the previous dear leader is now just. Even dear leader's kill lists are embraced by the faithful.

As Camberiu pointed out the Obama care was written by lobbyists and insurance companies. Had it been floated by the right the left would be screaming. But since it was floated by the messiah in true Trojan Horse style the intellectually challenged "followers" even feel the need to come on here to spit their garbage drivel. Says more about the "followers'" intellectual retardation than their messiahs false truths.

Fact is maybe 6 out of 10 who previously did not have coverage now will. Previously about 40 million did not have insurance. 260 million had insurance before the messiah's care. SO now maybe the new care will add 24 million. So the government stepped in and impacted the 260 million who were fine to help 24 million - less than 10%. Anyone who thinks this is good policy belongs right here in BsAs working for South America's lady messiah.