Ok, I See What You Mean About Subsidies

[dennisr]

Have read that each ticket sold on Aerolíneas Argentinas to Miami is subsidized by the government to the tune of us$700.00. Not a hint from the government to stop funding/subsidizing that Campora infested enterprise. Whole thing is a train wreck.

 

[cbonanni]

The electric subsidies are important to those who really need them. Those that do not take them gladly. Imagine the amounts the government pays to the electric providers. When the power goes out , see how long it takes to repair/restore ? Look at the lack of investment in the infrastructure and electric grid. What do the subsidies do ? Generate votes for the k's. Long term , it is a disaster waiting to happen. Pure corruption.

 

[steveinbsas]

When the power goes out , see how long it takes to repair/restore ? Look at the lack of investment in the infrastructure and electric grid. What do the subsidies do ?

In the past few months the power has been out twice in my area, on both occasions during thunderstorms and after five pm. It took three hours to restore the first time and two hours to restore the second time (last night).

How does that "restoration" time compare with CF?

 

[cbonanni]

In the past few months the power has been out twice in my area, on both occasions during thunderstorms and after five pm. It took three hours to restore the first time and two hours to restore the second time (last night).

How does that "restoration" time compare with CF?

We have had our power out , and have had it restored within hours. Of course we are 3 blocks from the Presidential Residence in Olivos , so I assume that helps. However , I have heard of some folks waiting up to a week to have power restored. One friend actually moved in with us till her power was restored. ( a week.) I only fear it will get worse as the infrastructure deteriorates.

 

[thorsten]

In the past few months the power has been out twice in my area, on both occasions during thunderstorms and after five pm. It took three hours to restore the first time and two hours to restore the second time (last night).

How does that "restoration" time compare with CF?

I guess the main problem in CF is that the infrastructure is not adequately sized anymore. A blackout in case of thunderstorms can happen in every country in the world and 2-3 hrs are a quick time to fix. In CF, especially in the hot summer days when everyone is using ACs, I had several outages per week often lasting more than a few hours (Palermo Hollywood). Other suburbs, however, were even more unfortunate and out of power for several days...

 

[citygirl]

We bought a generator due to the # of power outages over the past few years. Average time is usually about 4-5 hours but occasionally we have waits of up to 24 hours. But yes, lots of people were really affected by outages last year which lasted days or up to a week.

I believe lots of areas are still getting subsidies.

 

[nlaruccia]

steveinbsas, on 10 May 2014 - 06:24 PM, said:
The last time I paid my electric bill someone in line told me it was the last bill for subsidies for everyone, regardless of the level usage.




There weren't any power outages where I live in December or January. The woman in line indicated that subsidies were a thing of the past for everyone.

I know. That's why I posted earlier that my acquaintaince's sister didn't suffer power outages last summer but still received a $700 credit. It's all very unorganized.

 

[AmigoArtistico]

• Subsidies are being reduced for gas and water. This is being phased in over the next three billing cycles (really four; I just got my April gas bill, and only three days were affected by the new rates, so the bill looks the same as before, but I can see that the next bill will be more than double, and it's going up from there).
• Additionally, the government has authorized a significant increase in the price of gas (on my April bill, the price of gas is more than double the previous price)
• Up to now, there are only rumors that subsidies for electricity are going to be reduced, but given the dwindling treasury reserves, and the fact that the energy subsidies are one of the biggest consumers of those reserves, it's likely that there will be some type of decrease in subsidies.
• Information about payments from the electric companies for the apagones (power outages) can be found here: http://www.clarin.co...1103889651.html -- our power was going out constantly during the hot weather, several times for 12-24 hours. We received a credit of $870, which means that even if they were to eliminate the electricity subsidy completely, we won't have an electric bill for at least another six months; more likely, we won't be paying anything for electricity for the next year. Personally, I'd prefer to pay a normal electric rate and never lose power, but we're unlikely to see anything like that until 2016, at the very earliest.
• And just to stir the mud a little: Most of the world's subsidies go to the rich. Sometimes they use code words like "preferential tax treatment for capital gains," but most of the time you just never even here about them, unless you're a senator or congressman or a senior accountant or executive of Big Business, or you're some other government official in almost any country (believe it or not, some of them are not entirely legal).

 

[ajoknoblauch]

I know. That's why I posted earlier that my acquaintaince's sister didn't suffer power outages last summer but still received a $700 credit. It's all very unorganized.

Disorganized? Argentina?

 

[nlaruccia]

Y

Disorganized? Argentina?

Yep. After over ten years here, I just realized Argentina is disorganized. Hahaha.