Pope Francis is as Argentine as it gets

Yes he's very Argentine. An old fashioned Peronist. As for the sex abuse....He has done nothing. He was fully aware of US Cardinal McCarrick's history of molesting seminarians but did nothing; in fact he relied on McCarrick to advise him on the appointment of bishops. He ignored the cries of victims of sexual abuse in Chile, referring to their comments as "calumny", Then he went to Chile and was treated very coldly by the Chilean people who were fed up with his attitude. Finally under pressure Francis came around to acknowledging the veracity of the accusations and sacked a couple of bishops. He's much more concerned about politics - he won't visit Argentina for fear of being photographed with Macri.
 
300 priests accused in Pennsylvania having abused over 1000 children, 600 priests in Illinois ... the tip of the iceberg ... USA. Ireland, the UK, Australia, Poland,its a Tsunami of cover ups... What can Francis Do? It's a mafiosi organization inside the Vatican Core.. eliminating the Celibate will not help..! allowing priests to come out of the closet may certainly help...! Gay Priest couples...!
Please refer to the following link http://www.bishop-accountability.org/
 
What can he do? What should he have done? He should have removed Cardinal McCarrick immediately rather than make him a major confidant. He should have listened to the charges against predator priests in Chile and removed them, not defend them. He should have acted the very minute he became Pope and received the extensive abuse investigation that so disgusted Pope Benedict that he decided to resign. As for celibacy, yes making it optional for diocesan priests would help. Why do you say it wouldn't? He doesn't have to change any doctrine to allow priests to marry.
 
What can he do? What should he have done? He should have removed Cardinal McCarrick immediately rather than make him a major confidant. He should have listened to the charges against predator priests in Chile and removed them, not defend them. He should have acted the very minute he became Pope and received the extensive abuse investigation that so disgusted Pope Benedict that he decided to resign. As for celibacy, yes making it optional for diocesan priests would help. Why do you say it wouldn't? He doesn't have to change any doctrine to allow priests to marry.

You are 100 % correct Francisco should allow priests to marry Same Sex/Opposite Sex partners .. It's proven that pedophiles many times are hetero married men.

See this file below of 90 bishops Accused of Sexual Misconduct

http://www.bishop-accountability.org/bishops/accused/global_list_of_accused_bishops.htm

Bishops Accused of Sexual Abuse and Misconduct
A Global Accounting

The latest research by BishopAccountability.org identifies more than 90 Catholic bishops worldwide who have been accused publicly of sexual wrongdoing. Those marked in red allegedly abused minors; those in black are publicly accused of sexual abuse/sexual misconduct with adults only.

Until the 2018 revelations of alleged child sexual abuse by former cardinal Theodore McCarrick, the problem of bishops and major superiors who abuse had received little scrutiny. Yet a sexually abusive bishop or superior is exceptionally dangerous. His management of priests is skewed toward protecting his secret, beginning with the character of men he accepts to the seminary and the quality of their formation. When one of his priests is accused of sexual abuse, a bishop who is also an offender is unlikely to punish the priest or contact law enforcement. He is, inevitably, an enabler of other sexual criminals, harming not only his own victims, but those who are raped or assaulted by the abusive clerics to whom he gives safe harbor.
 
Francisco is still a leader of a conservative religious institution, no matter how "modern" people think he is. In 2004, when he was archbishop of Buenos Aires, he came out publicly against the retrospective of artist Leon Ferrari at Cultural Center Recoleta, and had all the priests in town read a statement to their flocks condemning the artist. As a result, a couple of eager Catholic Warriors went to the show and vandalized an artwork, and the City shut down the show. Ferrari sued, and it was a landmark case in Argentine Free Speech and Arts law history- He won, and donated the cash award he received to a Gay Rights Organization, further annoying Bergoglio. Francis is "modern" in the 1950s sense, as opposed to being an 18th century pontiff, but he is far from "woke".
 
... He doesn't have to change any doctrine to allow priests to marry.

This is true. It was relatively easy for the Roman Catholic Church to welcome married Anglican priests when they converted to Catholicism rather than accept women bishops. Further, I was told by a Roman Catholic theologian that in Paraguay, during the worst excesses of the Stroessner regime when the Church was seen as a major resistance against the government and priests were regularly kidnapped and murdered that the Church "hid their priests in plain sight" by encouraging them to marry and have families. I only have this one source for that story but it is a good source.
 
The solution may not be to have priests get Married to Women, but to avoid the Priests (Convicted) contact with children. instead the church has them in care of boarding schools , orphanages, schools for handicapped etc. The Fox in charge of the "chicken" coop...

Convicted Pedophiles in the California, can not get closer than 2 blocks to a school with children, or face being arrested.
Pedophilia, attraction for children, is a sexual behavior like sadomasochism, or sex attraction for Travestis. Consider that the hundreds of men that search travestis for sex, in the Palermo woods, in BA every night, many of them are (happily) married men (with women).
 
Correct, celibacy is not a doctrine. It's a discipline required by the Roman Rite. The Eastern Catholic Church (fully in communion with Rome) allows priests (but not bishops) to marry. There are other rites in communion with Rome that allow married priests, so there is zero doctrinal reason that celibacy cannot be made optional for some priests (I don't think it would be practical for congregations and it certainly wouldn't make any sense for monasteries). Conservatives oppose married priests so such a move would meet with resistance though I don't think most Catholics in developed countries would object. Allowing men to marry would greatly expand the pool of qualified candidates.

Studies have shown that most priest sex offenders are not pedophiles. They are primarily men attracted to other men. Most of the abuse cases involve teenagers - this is not pedophilia. I think the abuse of teens is because priests are often around young people and the teens are obviously vulnerable. In the case of Cardinal McCarrick, abuse was with adults eighteen or over (seminarians). What McCormick did was despicable. It's very hard to understand how Francis could have covered for him and even relied on him for advice regarding episcopal appointments but this is precisely what happened.

The pope cannot follow the Anglican example and allow priests to marry other men. That would require a major doctrinal change which is not likely to occur any time soon. Is Francis really "conservative"? I'd say that he is "progressive" on matters involving sexuality but he can only go so far in what he says or does. My feeling is that by selecting liberal bishops and cardinals he is preparing the way for change down the road. The longer he lives, the more liberal cardinals will be appointed to the College of Cardinals which ultimately could affect doctrinal decisions. His biggest stumbling block are the African bishops who are very largely ultra conservative. The same is true of the Anglican Communion but in the case of Anglican bodies, Anglicans in the UK, US, Canada etc have largely gone their own way and done what they want despite African objections. The Anglican Church of course has no strong central authority as in the Roman Catholic Church.

Francis is in a sense living in a kind of Peronist time warp. He sees capitalism as an evil and seems unable to distinguish between capitalism with some controls and unfettered, exploitative capitalism. He seems to think that countries like the US and UK are laissez faire states with no social umbrella but this in fact is not true though there are certainly gaps, especially medical care in the US, that need to be addressed. The old Peronist formulas appeal to Francis, especially populism. He cannot seem to see any alternative.

In terms of the priest abuse crisis, Francis has done a miserable job. His words have been largely empty. He has spoken harshly of the victims, even calling their charges "calumny". Now with civil action being taken in the US, Australia (a prelate there has just been convicted of sex crimes) and elsewhere, he is being forced to act more responsibly.
 
Correct, celibacy is not a doctrine. It's a discipline required by the Roman Rite. The Eastern Catholic Church (fully in communion with Rome) allows priests (but not bishops) to marry. There are other rites in communion with Rome that allow married priests, so there is zero doctrinal reason that celibacy cannot be made optional for some priests (I don't think it would be practical for congregations and it certainly wouldn't make any sense for monasteries). Conservatives oppose married priests so such a move would meet with resistance though I don't think most Catholics in developed countries would object. Allowing men to marry would greatly expand the pool of qualified candidates.

Studies have shown that most priest sex offenders are not pedophiles. They are primarily men attracted to other men. Most of the abuse cases involve teenagers - this is not pedophilia. I think the abuse of teens is because priests are often around young people and the teens are obviously vulnerable. In the case of Cardinal McCarrick, abuse was with adults eighteen or over (seminarians). What McCormick did was despicable. It's very hard to understand how Francis could have covered for him and even relied on him for advice regarding episcopal appointments but this is precisely what happened.

The pope cannot follow the Anglican example and allow priests to marry other men. That would require a major doctrinal change which is not likely to occur any time soon. Is Francis really "conservative"? I'd say that he is "progressive" on matters involving sexuality but he can only go so far in what he says or does. My feeling is that by selecting liberal bishops and cardinals he is preparing the way for change down the road. The longer he lives, the more liberal cardinals will be appointed to the College of Cardinals which ultimately could affect doctrinal decisions. His biggest stumbling block are the African bishops who are very largely ultra conservative. The same is true of the Anglican Communion but in the case of Anglican bodies, Anglicans in the UK, US, Canada etc have largely gone their own way and done what they want despite African objections. The Anglican Church of course has no strong central authority as in the Roman Catholic Church.

Francis is in a sense living in a kind of Peronist time warp. He sees capitalism as an evil and seems unable to distinguish between capitalism with some controls and unfettered, exploitative capitalism. He seems to think that countries like the US and UK are laissez faire states with no social umbrella but this in fact is not true though there are certainly gaps, especially medical care in the US, that need to be addressed. The old Peronist formulas appeal to Francis, especially populism. He cannot seem to see any alternative.

In terms of the priest abuse crisis, Francis has done a miserable job. His words have been largely empty. He has spoken harshly of the victims, even calling their charges "calumny". Now with civil action being taken in the US, Australia (a prelate there has just been convicted of sex crimes) and elsewhere, he is being forced to act more responsibly.


.." Studies have shown that most priest sex offenders are not pedophiles. They are primarily men attracted to other men. Most of the abuse cases involve teenagers - this is not pedophilia. I think the abuse of teens is because priests are often around young people and the teens are obviously vulnerable. In the case of Cardinal McCarrick, abuse was with adults eighteen or over (seminarians). What McCormick did was despicable. It's very hard to understand how Francis could have covered for him and even relied on him for advice regarding episcopal appointments but this is precisely what happened. ""

Studies have shown...... :D that is a cover for all sins.....:D:D:D:D
Homosexual priests that abuse teenagers under Age .. should go to jail like civilians do, like Men and Women that have sex with students...It's the Law.

Not enough jails exist to imprison all the convicted priests . Where is the Inquisition now that we need it , please come back Torquemada to torture and Burn at the stake the sinners...

Joke for Sergio ... The Chilean Bishops called to el Vaticano by Francis.. to discuss abuses and cover ups were served a menu of Niños Envueltos

PS Don't Quote "studies"




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