Priceless: This Is The Start Of The Anti Corruption

[jp]

Interesting example of two different stories in two different papers (with two different agendas). Also a good example of why you need to take anything you read in the papers with a pinch of salt.

Has anyone actually read beyond Clarin's refutation, or have people just assumed that Clarin are telling the truth because... well, they just must be? They've not exactly got the best record for fair and balanced reporting.

I'm at a loss how anyone is supposed to stay informed in this country. Government statistics are manipulated, as are "independent" estimates. Media neutrality is pitiful, and objective reporting a fantasy. The propaganda and spin makes you dizzy.

After five years living in Argentina I sit so firmly on the fence on most issues that I can feel it tickling my tonsils.

 

[Gringoboy]

I hear you there JP and whilst I may fly the flag for characters such as Lanata, I sometimes feel that he's an expert at joining the dots.

 

[Yogur griego]

I don't want to open new threads all the time, but read this: http://internacional.elpais.com/internacional/2013/05/28/actualidad/1369774427_556794.html

 

[Iznogud]

Might need to run this URGENTLY.!

 

[trennod]

Haha nice one Bajo. Everyone know she isnt corrupt. What do you get from La Cámpora?

 

[Yogur griego]

Reading this diarrhoea of critical replies, it becomes clear how much fans Bajo_Cero has on this forum. I have nothing to add to what's already been said.

 

[Joe]

Reading this diarrhoea of critical replies, it becomes clear how much fans Bajo_Cero has on this forum. I have nothing to add to what's already been said.

Any truth to the rumour that your feud with Bajo Cero dates back to a fiercely fought tango contest and a dispute over dancing partners?

 

[Yogur griego]

Any truth to the rumour that your feud with Bajo Cero dates back to a fiercely fought tango contest and a dispute over dancing partners?

I confess all of this. We had been sworn comrades since kindergarten, until an ill-fated evening ten years ago, when the seductive and infamous fifs2 ignited an irrepearable conflict between us.

 

[GS_Dirtboy]

http://www.perfil.co...30528-0035.html

Lilita Carrio is the AR politician who got about 2,6 % of the votes last election BUT she was a lot in camera in the last weeks because she is a serial denunciatory of public offices (politicians) for embezzlement. However, this time she is accused and the evidences are very clear. She represents very well the how are many politicians in this country.

Bajo_Cero2, I give you a lot of leeway with your posts because I know you are very pro-K and I like hearing differing opinions. We are all "pro" or "against" something which influences how we interpret information and conclude answers. However, your post here is of a very different nature.

You are a lawyer talking about the "evidence" against someone which is the sum of an accusation that she has more assets than her work should allow. Your conclusion is that she is obviously guilty based upon this evidence and this is the start of some wondrous anti-corruption movement in Argentina. Does this mean that CFK is obviously guilty of stealing since the immense wealth that she has accumulated over the past 10 years is so obviously out of reach of her salary as a lawyer and then President?

I would have expected a much more critical thinking process from you, a lawyer. All of the professional lawyers I know - which includes literally 100's of my clients over the past 10 years - would never have come to the conclusion you came to. They would have been much more discerning in their statements.

With this very post you have completely lost any respect that I had for your contribution to this site. Hopefully, we can get some Kirchneristas on this site that have well-thought-out posts to share with us so we actually learn something, even though we may not agree. That would be a contribution.

Have a nice day.

GS

For the record, I didn't even know who this woman was until your post. Now I'm interested in hearing more about what she does and, if I find her credible, to give her my support. I guess, in that way, your post is a contribution.

 

[Yogur griego]

Bajo_Cero2, I give you a lot of leeway with your posts because I know you are very pro-K and I like hearing differing opinions. We are all "pro" or "against" something which influences how we interpret information and conclude answers. However, your post here is of a very different nature.

You are a lawyer talking about the "evidence" against someone which is the sum of an accusation that she has more assets than her work should allow. Your conclusion is that she is obviously guilty based upon this evidence and this is the start of some wondrous anti-corruption movement in Argentina. Does this mean that CFK is obviously guilty of stealing since the immense wealth that she has accumulated over the past 10 years is so obviously out of reach of her salary as a lawyer and then President?

I would have expected a much more critical thinking process from you, a lawyer. All of the professional lawyers I know - which includes literally 100's of my clients over the past 10 years - would never have come to the conclusion you came to. They would have been much more discerning in their statements.

With this very post you have completely lost any respect that I had for your contribution to this site. Hopefully, we can get some Kirchneristas on this site that have well-thought-out posts to share with us so we actually learn something, even though we may not agree. That would be a contribution.

Have a nice day.

GS

For the record, I didn't even know who this woman was until your post. Now I'm interested in hearing more about what she does and, if I find her credible, to give her my support. I guess, in that way, your post is a contribution.

Only posting your signature here would have been clear enough.