Reduced flight schedules and current entry / exit requirements

[dsp27]

Will returning residents be exempt?

Residents and citizens are in the same bucket. Non residents/ citizens have not been able to enter for over a year now — with a few exceptions.

 

[antipodean]

Ante el fracaso del plan de vacunación, el Gobierno se concentra en complicar el regreso de los argentinos al país

El Presidente no descarta la cuarentena pagada por los propios turistas y el envío de Fuerzas de Seguridad a las fronteras para evitar que las nuevas cepas crucen al país desde Brasil, Paraguay y Bolivia

www.infobae.com

Key extracts with a few more details straight from the horses mouth:

Given the failure of the vaccination plan, the Government focuses on complicating the return of Argentines to the country
The President does not rule out the quarantine paid by the tourists themselves and the sending of Security Forces to the borders to prevent the new strains from crossing into the country from Brazil, Paraguay and Bolivia.

“Basically what we want to restrict is tourism abroad. If you leave, it will be difficult for you to enter ”, Alberto Fernández confided in the quinto of Olivos when they asked him about the sanitary premise of the next Decree of Necessity and Urgency (DNU) that he would sign tomorrow to appease the eventual fatal consequences of the second wave of COVID-19.
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The Minister of Health, Carla Vizzotti, must define the extension of the mandatory quarantine. Until last night ranged from 7 to 10 days in a row. And its fulfillment would be in Buenos Aires hotels, although Argentine tourists can prove that their addresses are in the interior of the country.

Alberto Fernández and Carla Vizzotti at the Casa Rosada

-What happens with Argentines who travel abroad to work? - they asked Alberto Fernández.

-Those must justify their trip-, he answered.

Justification for the trip does not prevent mandatory quarantine. It would only serve to save the stay in a hotel in the Federal Capital. "The eventual contagion can also happen if you went to work, that's why all Argentines who come from abroad would go to quarantine," revealed a member of the Cabinet who yesterday worked at the DNU that Alberto Fernández would sign tomorrow at the Casa Rosada.

That is to say: it will not matter if you traveled as a tourist or for work reasons. And it will not do to prove that you were vaccinated or that you have a lot of antibodies. In all cases, the quarantine would be mandatory in Buenos Aires hotels for Argentines who returned from abroad.
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The government is analyzing deploying security forces and requesting logistical support from the Armed Forces. The borders in the North are porous and the National Gendarmerie can do little to prevent clandestine passage from Brazil, Paraguay and Bolivia. It is a delicate matter: hundreds of Argentines buy and sell across borders and it is their only way of subsistence.

Alberto Fernández tries a delicate balance between health control and the economic crisis. If at the borders everything is reduced to avoiding informal circulation between Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay and Bolivia,a succession of spontaneous civil disobedience events may occur.
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In addition to border controls, the president ordered his cabinet to start a new conversation with the governors to reinforce the daily monitoring of Argentines who returned from abroad and carry out the mandatory quarantine in their provinces.

Ministers Vizzotti (Health) and Eduardo “Wado” de Pedro (Interior) have proven that controls were relaxed in the provinces and that quarantine is a criminal obligation of low compliance. Alberto Fernández seeks to reinforce the controls inside, while trying to discourage foreign tourism to appease the eventual deadly consequences of the second wave of COVID-19.

The Casa Rosada today will be the scene of a continuous parade of ministers and secretaries to define together with the head of state all the measures that will be implemented to prevent the pandemic from deepening the social and health tragedy in Argentina.

If the internal politics and the state bureaucracy do not block its final drafting, Alberto Fernández will sign the DNU tomorrow against the second wave of COVID-19.

 

[dsp27]

Maybe a Chile style? 3 days in a hotel then PCR and rest of the 10 days at home.

 

[antipodean]

Maybe a Chile style? 3 days in a hotel then PCR and rest of the 10 days at home.

They are using Canada as their example based on recent interviews and statements from the government. Travelers are the new runners so I’m not expecting a generous policy.

 

[dsp27]

They are using Canada as their example based on recent interviews and statements from the government. Travelers are the new runners so I’m not expecting a generous policy.

yes - BUT the capacity is just not there at the hotels. It's not easy to coordinate and implement (I think the UK needed 4 weeks to implement). As usual there is a lot of posturing and talking but little action. Let's see what comes out in the next few days. I feel it will be a watered down version of what has been circulating.

 

[antipodean]

yes - BUT the capacity is just not there at the hotels. It's not easy to coordinate and implement (I think the UK needed 4 weeks to implement). As usual there is a lot of posturing and talking but little action. Let's see what comes out in the next few days. I feel it will be a watered down version of what has been circulating.

Not so sure about that - there is one by where I live and it is closed because there is not currently enough demand as they needed during the peaks last year (but all the equipment is still there, all they need to do is turn on the lights.)

 

[dsp27]

Not so sure about that - there is one by where I live and it is closed because there is not currently enough demand as they needed during the peaks last year (but all the equipment is still there, all they need to do is turn on the lights.)

Nah -- it's more complicated than that. Staff, cleaning, food, heating, transportation, who and how pays bills, there needs to be some sort of public contracting which also takes time. The previous hotel program worked under the extremely reduced number of people being repatriated -- things are different now. So many people are out and about. The government wants to be seen as doing something but they don't want to repeat the images from last year with Argies not able to fly back home.

 

[Ceviche]

Ch

Maybe a Chile style? 3 days in a hotel then PCR and rest of the 10 days at home.

Chile model is very practical! I have done it without issues

 

[antipodean]

El Gobierno apura la resolución para que quienes viajen al exterior deban hacer cuarentena en hoteles y pagar por esas estadías

Santiago Cafiero confirmó que “en algunas jurisdicciones van a tener que hacer aislamiento en hoteles los que den positivo”, pero no dio precisiones sobre quienes den negativo; el decreto que fije las restricciones podría demorar “unos días más” en salir

www.lanacion.com.ar

From LN

• DNU will be released in coming days (delayed beyond today as previously foreseen due to impact on and input by various ministries)
• In addition to 14 day hotel quarantine the main focus will be reducing flights further down to a bare minimum to manage capacity and kill off demand
• Anyone who finds themselves stuck abroad because of this won’t be helped by repatriation flights
• Domestic tourism not to be restricted until possibly after Easter
• Some provinces may require positive covid cases to be quarantined in hotels (currently in most places this is only for those who are unable to do it at home)

 

[chris]

So what happens to foreigners who have been overseas for nearly two years without a return to Argentina? Will their DNIs be extended if they are nit willing to return until these conditions?