Rent Nightmare

[ajoknoblauch]

Awesome. So there you are! You have a opinion as well.

As all five fingers on the hand are not of the same size. All People in this world all don't think alike. Each has a different mind, experience of life and expectations from people around him or from the world. What may sound as stupid to one , may be a brainwave for the other. What may sound as the most brilliant opinion to one, may sound racial or derogatory to other.

But having said that - everyone still has a right to one's opinion. Those hearing that particular opinion have right to counter with their own respective opinion. and then, life goes on!

You may have the right to your own opinion, but not necessarily to impose it on others. And others have the right to criticize or even ridicule your opinion.

 

[Ceviche]

You may have the right to your own opinion, but not necessarily to impose it on others. And others have the right to criticize or even ridicule your opinion.

Thanks for your opinion on my opinion.

 

[Rich One]

In my building one should contact the receptionist about any complaint. Never should one address directly other tenants to avoid possible violent confrontations

 

[ben]

One cannot have a serious discussion about planes and children without quoting the timeless Bill Maher:

[With the higher terrorism alert,] the only fluid now being allowed onboard a plane is baby formula. The passengers took a vote and said they'd rather be blown up than hear a baby scream for six hours.

 

[jpw]

ok all I wanted was advise and recommendations of anyone who would know better how to deal with my situation with the landlord and how he is putting the previous damages on me, which is less then the lawyer fee but a simple matter of principle, and not doing anything about fixing the heater which is a more pressing matter in this winter. But I honestly do appreciate all your support, advise and comments, even the criticism.

Nikad, you are right it is a different neighbourhood, Ive lived a little outside of Recoleta before here, and its a whole different situation there, but we only stayed here because it was our last leg of stay, and this was the only place we found, and I will pretty soon be returning back anyways. Park works too, but then again its home, we live here, we use everything here, we laugh, cry and eat here, with three boys that young things aren't always as predictable as some expect them to be.

Ben you put it very correctly that parents are mortified when their child is being a child or acting unusual or out of character for any new reason, not all parents are terrible parents, but yes children sometimes end up just being children. (SOMETIMES)

this is not directed at anyone but I have been boggled about the idea of coexistence, like I should abide with the laws of coexistence by keeping my kids absolutely quiet during the day, but its more then acceptable infact a norm to have blasting loud dance music in wee hours of the night in a residential building. What I don't understand is that you are expecting adult behavior from kids and the its alright for adults to get away with anything.

Davidglen, I was avoiding to answer you, because obviously you have made up your mind and have formed your opinions about me being a bad parent, who's kids are possibly making the neighbours lives a nightmare, its a mind over matter situation and there is nothing I will say will convince you otherwise, but you need to understand that its different to have someone else's kids visit you for a few hours or days then having to raise them through all their good cheers, their little bruises, their little joys, their bad dreams, their childish tantrums their I hate you's and their I love you moments. Sadly you will never know those, because obviously you have a set idea about how you were raised as a good obedient and quiet child, and the urban knowledge of all children or situations being different then others means nothing to you. Previously when I said my kids are good kids and you said that you were not judging them rather me, so the answer to that is, that they are good kids because I am enforcing the good qualities in them, to me right now is more important to raise happy kids who can make the world tomorrow a happier place, by no means they should make others lives hell, but yes one thing at a time, we are getting there slowly so don't worry we are not going to be bad for the world. And definitely not trying to be bad neighbors

 

[nikad]

jpw, it obviously would have not made any sense, and most likely a temp rent agency has no clue, but whenever I rent an apartment, I like to ask if there are kids in the building, and pets, how flexible people are, etc, etc to avoid landing in a place where, they don't like pets and I have one, or the same with kids, also if there are professionals that work there and you have strangers coming in and out of the building, etc. Any good real estate agent should be able to answer this, or go along with you and ask the building's super, etc. I guess I was lucky when I moved into this apartment, there were no tenants and not a single kid - my oldest was already 16 years old by then, then when I got pregnant and the little one was born, all of a sudden there were kids coming from everywhere, about 4 women got pregnant, others moved out and families with kids moved in, so it really made it very easy for us and our late night crying/screaming baby Don't stress it, make the most out of your stay, life is too short. Also, many people nowadays, even couples, decide that they do not want kids and others express the fact that they do not like kids, and that is fine with me. We live and we learn.

 

[Davidglen77]

Davidglen, I was avoiding to answer you, because obviously you have made up your mind and have formed your opinions about me being a bad parent, who's kids are possibly making the neighbours lives a nightmare, its a mind over matter situation and there is nothing I will say will convince you otherwise, but you need to understand that its different to have someone else's kids visit you for a few hours or days then having to raise them through all their good cheers, their little bruises, their little joys, their bad dreams, their childish tantrums their I hate you's and their I love you moments. Sadly you will never know those, because obviously you have a set idea about how you were raised as a good obedient and quiet child, and the urban knowledge of all children or situations being different then others means nothing to you. Previously when I said my kids are good kids and you said that you were not judging them rather me, so the answer to that is, that they are good kids because I am enforcing the good qualities in them, to me right now is more important to raise happy kids who can make the world tomorrow a happier place, by no means they should make others lives hell, but yes one thing at a time, we are getting there slowly so don't worry we are not going to be bad for the world. And definitely not trying to be bad neighbors

What I have made my mind up about is that people who disturb their neighbors to the point that multiple neighbors have come to your door multiple times to tell you that you are disturbing them and you saying they are rude has led me to believe that you are a bad neighbor, and inconsiderate too. The fact that I have no biological children of my own really has little to do with this issue.
You have used several excuses to justify the fact that you don't control what goes on in your house to the extent that others have to live with it and that in my book is NOT okay.
While I am sure that you and your famiy are good citizens, and not unreasonable people, I still stand my ground because once again I live in a building where there are children and know many people who have them and they are not having neighbors coming to them repeatedly to ask that they keep their house under control. I have never complained about a child making noise because thank goodness I haven't ever had to deal with excessive noise and out of control kids in places where I've lived. Yes, I've heard babies cry, scream, kids playing,etc, but it hasn't been constant or unreasonable so I've dealt with it. However if your house is so noisy that people are complaining over and over than you are being a nuisance - kids are kids, if you don't set limits and teach them now, they will become yours and other people's problem later. All of those things you say about kids being kids are true, but they happen in millions of homes everyday all over the world and 99.9% don't spill over into the neighbors space when they happen.

 

[steveinbsas]

You may have the right to your own opinion, but not necessarily to impose it on others.

How would anyone be able to "impose" their opinion on others in an internet forum like this?

And others have the right to criticize or even ridicule your opinion.

Criticizing an opinion does not necessarily constitute an argument that refutes it. Neither does "ridiculing" anther individual's opinion when it takes the form of belittling them with derogatory comments about their intelligence.

PS: Nobody really has any "rights" here, except the owner of the website.

 

[ben]

Criticizing an opinion does not necessarily constitute an argument that refutes it. Neither does "ridiculing" anther individual's opinion when it takes the form of belittling them with derogatory comments about their intelligence.

However, when said belittling comes coupled with an argument making the case for said belittling, that's a different story. In my own case, I endeavored not to just call someone an ass, but to make plain why I think that title has been earned. I think my previous posts do that with some degree of clarity.

That said, using derogatory language, even when well-earned, may, to quote John Gruber, lead to a loss of persuasion among those who conflate bluntness with shrillness. I'm fine with that.

 

[ben]

Yes, I've heard babies cry, scream, kids playing,etc, but it hasn't been constant or unreasonable so I've dealt with it.

Ok that quote obviates the response I was considering writing you.

I am simply believe that there may exist - and I am not leveling specific accusations at anyone, since nobody here knows the actual state of affairs in the OP's building - but I do not find it fantastic at all to believe that there exist people who will go seriously overboard even given 'normal' noise levels. And that these people are likely to not have children of their own, which would influence their assumptions of what constitutes normal/unavoidable noise levels.

I am certainly not saying anybody here is like that, nor do I know this to be the case regarding the OP; just that it doesn't sound far-fetched at all. And certainly doesn't sound far-fetched if we're talking about people who don't like the temp renters, bring the peculiar Argentine sense of morality/fairness to the table, and are looking for things to be annoyed by.