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Are we ever gonna understand that democracy isn't just about winning an election?? That’s just the beginning. Most of it has to do with how that popular mandate is practiced.
If a government wouldn’t respect personal freedoms, human rights, balance of power or freedom of press; puts its opponents in jail and reduces demonstrations to dust (aka snipers), it’s simply a totalitarian government.
Just trying to clarify this for those who are saying that Maduro’s protecting democracy
 
No need to get carried away. Maduro will fall sooner than later because of economic crisis, shortages and looting by rioters out of control.
 
cuore said:
Are we ever gonna understand that democracy isn't just about winning an election?? That’s just the beginning. Most of it has to do with how that popular mandate is practiced.
If a government wouldn’t respect personal freedoms, human rights, balance of power or freedom of press; puts its opponents in jail and reduces demonstrations to dust (aka snipers), it’s simply a totalitarian government.
Just trying to clarify this for those who are saying that Maduro’s protecting democracy.
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This story and the accompanying video are more examples of Maduro's excellent "protection" of democracy.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/foreigners/2014/02/nicolas_maduro_s_venezuela_erupts_in_violence_the_venezuelan_president_appears.html
 
camberiu said:
Question for you folks:

Who, other than the Venezuelans themselves, should be meddling on this political crisis over there?
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Do you mind if I borrow your question and ask the same about the Serbians killing... everyone round there , or maybe the Sudanese government cleasing every non Arab town???


I know it's not even close, not in a million years, but when is it a good moment to draw the line
 
cuore said:
Do you mind if I borrow your question and ask the same about the Serbians killing... everyone round there , or maybe the Sudanese government cleasing every non Arab town???


I know it's not even close, not in a million years, but when is it a good moment to draw the line
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My answer is the same to all of those questions: "it is no other government's business". If anyone feels very strongly about any of those incidents, by all means go there help and/or fight. But no government has received any mandate to police the world.
 
Well perhaps private citizens should pay for Blackwater to go in and "settle things down".

1) They're not a government.
2) If they're caught, they wouldn't have a government whisking them out of there on the tax payers' dime after they've slaughtered half a village because one of their guys got insulted.

Other options have to be political pressure. Cuba is in there and perhaps some other "populist" government advisers from Venezuela's buddies in Iran or Russia*.

*Perhaps this is related to Kiev and is happening now because the world is looking another way. And by "World", I mean about 30 countries.
 
cuore said:
Do you mind if I borrow your question and ask the same about the Serbians killing... everyone round there , or maybe the Sudanese government cleasing every non Arab town???


I know it's not even close, not in a million years, but when is it a good moment to draw the line
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When people are being lined up and shot one by one, that is when something should be done internationally. Preferably by a UN group made up of that region. i.e. european for europe, african for africa, asian for asia etc.

This isn't happening in Venezuela yet, and hopefully wont happen.
 
The hilarity behind it all is we are a bunch of foreigners who have no idea what a real democracy looks like. We live in capitalist plutocracies where weve become satisfied with the scraps from the paymasters table. Please spare me the whole " freedom and democracy " spiel. Take one look at Libya to see what nato enforced " freedom and democracy " looks like. Libya was once the wealthiest most modern and secular country in Africa. They wanted to trade their oil for gold. Cue the anti government flash mob. Now after nato " liberated " the country, its an al qaeda cia hell hole. But the country has a brand new central bank and petroleum exporting company. All deals in USD of course. Cui Bono? And westerners still feign ignorance to the evil their governments inflict on the world all under the guise of " freedom and democracy ". It all comes back full circle in the end. You can kick the can down the road for only so long. Eventually it will come back to you. One day maybe the world will sit around and decide your fate and that of your countries and its children. I truly hope that day never comes.
 
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