Street sweepers earn $10,000 a month???

Lucas said:
Not quite so....as a rule of the thumb never ever believe at 'prima facie' what is or was written in 'Clarin', 'Perfil' o 'La Nacion' for that matter without disputing it first.

I would dispute anything written by anyone, be it Clarín or Página 12. The article you posted doesn't wash with me. The fact is that he promised during his campaign in 2003 that he would use public hospitals. This hasn't been the case. Please point out to me where Clarín lied, as you suggest they did. I'll be the first say that the journalism skills at Clarín aren't quite stellar, but it doesn't stake a genius (or a journalist) to say where a man was hospitalized.

The points made in the article you posted explain precisely why President Kirchner wasn't hospitalized at Hospital Argerich, which in itself shows hypocrisy. "'Si bien no estoy yendo diariamente al Argerich, sé por otros colegas en las condiciones de insumos y de medicación específica, que tiene problemas como todos los hospitales de la Ciudad. Yo aconsejé que no (fuera), no sólo por él sino que ningún paciente en esas condiciones estaría en sus mejor situación (de ser) atendido', manifestó." In other words, Argerich sucks and so do the rest of the public hospitals, so you should probably go to a private clinic. What if Joe-Heart-Attack-Patient showed up at this hospital and was told that they couldn't take care of him? Would Average Joe in Argentina be able to pay for the bill at Arcos? What about folks who don't have access to the Presidential Medical Unit? If he were truly a man of the people as he painted himself out to be, he would have gone to the public hospital Sí o Sí, just like many people in Argentina have to do, regardless of med shortages or whatever else. And blaming Macri? Sheesh. :rolleyes:
 
bradlyhale said:
What about folks who don't have access to the Presidential Medical Unit? If he were truly a man of the people as he painted himself out to be, he would have gone to the public hospital Sí o Sí, just like many people in Argentina have to do, regardless of med shortages or whatever else. And blaming Macri? Sheesh. :rolleyes:

We are talking of a citizen who is the head of the state and not your Average Joe here, the responsibilities of his medical team was to decide the more secure and best attention possible for him when he wasn't able to decide by himself it's compressible also desirable and according with the protocol process the decision was taken by his team in this kind of situations, If it wasn't for the lack of essentials medicines supply in those hospitals which BTW are administered by the city of BA in which the Mr. Mauricio Macri is the principal responsible for keeping the maintenance, supplies and infrastructure of these hospitals this situation wouldn't be raised and he would end by being attended in there.
 
bradlyhale said:
What if Joe-Heart-Attack-Patient showed up at this hospital and was told that they couldn't take care of him? Would Average Joe in Argentina be able to pay for the bill at Arcos? What about folks who don't have access to the Presidential Medical Unit?

There's no such thing as a "presidential medical unit".
And Average Joe goes to public hospital and gets treated.
 
bebero said:
There's no such thing as a "presidential medical unit".
And Average Joe goes to public hospital and gets treated.

There is such a thing if you're the Presidente/a de la Nación Argentina. ;)
 
gsi16386 said:
Ah....a lefty never misses his chance to throw in a gut punch with his lefty agenda.

Of course what you described happens all the time in the US. You're never seen by a doctor, you're always seeing a nurse practitioner, you're always misprescribed at exobitant prices, and this is all because insurance companies and drug companies are in bed with congress (and of course wall street, which isn't even a company, entity, or person). sheezus Seems like everyone is out to get you.

When I've gone to see a doctor in the US, I've always seen a doctor, given a prescription, paid my prescription copay of $15/$20, diagnosed correctly because they have the best technological advancements in the world, and this is all due to the fact that the insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies are working harder towards solutions because they work within a free market driven by profit. Seems right on to me (no pun intended).

Everyone's situation is different and I'm sure people have stories from both sides.
No lefty here, sorry and no lefty agenda either. I've been on the inside of US health care "system" for many, many years and if you think it's it is acting in your best interest you are very sadly mistaken.
 
ghost said:
No lefty here, sorry and no lefty agenda either. I've been on the inside of US health care "system" for many, many years and if you think it's it is acting in your best interest you are very sadly mistaken.


Everyone's situation is different and I certainly respect your experiences and position. Do I think the healthcare system is more concerned about profit than your wellbeing? Probably...but any further oversight by the gov't to regulate prices, pay, taxation, etc. is not going to resolve the problem.

Someone else mentioned they'd take the French system over the US system...that's basically supporting the ObamaCare bill, which is currently being repealed by multiple states. It's just not going to work in a country founded upon freedom of choice. There would be a lot of winners with French type system (which reigns in as one of the best healthcare nations in the world) and there would be a lot of losers, but the US is a capitalist economy, not a socialist.

Who knows how to resolve the healthcare issue, but one certain is true and that is with any style system there are winners and losers. It just depends on whether or not you're at the top of the hill or the bottom.
 
Hi there,
Do you know any company selling street sweepers? Can you please name them?
 
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