Why is it that when you ask a K about anything they will always always blame someone else and/or change the focus and say that someone else is worse.
Do the K's steal from the state?
K: Memen stole a lot. Macri steals and Clarin absolutely steals (do you not know they owe 200 million to the state etc etc).
Me: How is that relevant???
Lanata says they steal, do you believe it?
K: Lanata used to use cocain and is fat!
Me: How is that relevant?? It doesn't matter where the accusations come from, they are still valid and worth looking into.
Hows the economy going in your opinion?
K: We have 40 billion dollars in the bank!!
Me: That's not an answer!
Even if that's true (currently 38 billion if you chose to believe that) that's still the lowest in years!
K: It's much more than in 2002! This is the "decada ganada" didn't you know?
Me: Hows that relevant? It's a lot less than last year or the year before or the year before...
The soya price is higher than ever and all other LA countries (except venezuela and equador) are swimming in dollars shouldn't there be more here?
K: Eh, you are a foreigner and you don't understand. Also did I mention that we have 40 billion dollars in the bank and that Clarin steals and is a monopoly and "da asco"?
Me: Hows that relevant?
A lot of foreign think tanks and intellectuals are saying that Argentina is heading for another crisis, what do you think?
K: FMI sucks, look what happened when we listened to foreigners!
Me: How is that relevant? Also; sure, Kicillof, Moreno and company are more clever than the whole world, that makes sense.
El pais (in spain) said something negative about the queen, what do you think?
K: They are in crisis, jaja, loads of unemployment, they suck.
Me: How is that relevant? Also, please know that a crisis in a developed country is not the same as a crisis here, it really isn't.
50 kids die each day of starvation in a country that has spent 4000 millions on "futbol para todos", what's your take on that?
K: Indec says there's hardly any poverty (and also I am pretty sure Clarin starves kids to death, maybe Macri as well).
Me: Ok. So in fact it's true then, there really are less poor here than in Switzerland, I believe that, sure, sounds plausible. The people I see in the barrios here in the north are just faking poverty, typical.
Is it ok to steal as long you steal less then previous goverments?
K: Memen stole a lot. Macri steals and Clarin absolutely steals (do you not know they owe 200 million to the state etc etc).
Me: Hows that relevant?
Now, I know why they all answer the same (a friend of mine is a campora "imposter" and get's all the emails about how to counter-attack anything anyone throws at you) I just don't understand why having a proper discussion about a subject is so hard and why everything has to be black and white, it's never "yea I like some things, others not so much", it's always "I love" or "I hate". (kudos to MathiasBA for actually admiting to like some things and not others - that's a first).
They have fucked up a lot, most governments do, but most governments when they do learn from it, talk about it, analyze what went wrong and do better next time. Here they just ignore it and plan their next move against the evil of the world (Clarin obviously) .
Obviously the Kirshners have done loads of good and yes Macri and Clarin are evil and Menem was a cunt but that's really isn't the point. The questions are; have they done enough? Is what they are doing right now correct? And is what they are doing right now going to benefit future generations?
There's a stark difference between Nestor and the queen, at least it seemed like he had control over things and even some kind of plan, the current government reminds me more of an improvisational theater show - and not a very good one.
Apologies for the length of this post. I will now go and open some wine. (btw; when are we getting "vino para todos"?).
P.S: This is not an attack on anyone in this forum, is what I see in real world discussions around these subjects.
Do the K's steal from the state?
K: Memen stole a lot. Macri steals and Clarin absolutely steals (do you not know they owe 200 million to the state etc etc).
Me: How is that relevant???
Lanata says they steal, do you believe it?
K: Lanata used to use cocain and is fat!
Me: How is that relevant?? It doesn't matter where the accusations come from, they are still valid and worth looking into.
Hows the economy going in your opinion?
K: We have 40 billion dollars in the bank!!
Me: That's not an answer!
Even if that's true (currently 38 billion if you chose to believe that) that's still the lowest in years!
K: It's much more than in 2002! This is the "decada ganada" didn't you know?
Me: Hows that relevant? It's a lot less than last year or the year before or the year before...
The soya price is higher than ever and all other LA countries (except venezuela and equador) are swimming in dollars shouldn't there be more here?
K: Eh, you are a foreigner and you don't understand. Also did I mention that we have 40 billion dollars in the bank and that Clarin steals and is a monopoly and "da asco"?
Me: Hows that relevant?
A lot of foreign think tanks and intellectuals are saying that Argentina is heading for another crisis, what do you think?
K: FMI sucks, look what happened when we listened to foreigners!
Me: How is that relevant? Also; sure, Kicillof, Moreno and company are more clever than the whole world, that makes sense.
El pais (in spain) said something negative about the queen, what do you think?
K: They are in crisis, jaja, loads of unemployment, they suck.
Me: How is that relevant? Also, please know that a crisis in a developed country is not the same as a crisis here, it really isn't.
50 kids die each day of starvation in a country that has spent 4000 millions on "futbol para todos", what's your take on that?
K: Indec says there's hardly any poverty (and also I am pretty sure Clarin starves kids to death, maybe Macri as well).
Me: Ok. So in fact it's true then, there really are less poor here than in Switzerland, I believe that, sure, sounds plausible. The people I see in the barrios here in the north are just faking poverty, typical.
Is it ok to steal as long you steal less then previous goverments?
K: Memen stole a lot. Macri steals and Clarin absolutely steals (do you not know they owe 200 million to the state etc etc).
Me: Hows that relevant?
Now, I know why they all answer the same (a friend of mine is a campora "imposter" and get's all the emails about how to counter-attack anything anyone throws at you) I just don't understand why having a proper discussion about a subject is so hard and why everything has to be black and white, it's never "yea I like some things, others not so much", it's always "I love" or "I hate". (kudos to MathiasBA for actually admiting to like some things and not others - that's a first).
They have fucked up a lot, most governments do, but most governments when they do learn from it, talk about it, analyze what went wrong and do better next time. Here they just ignore it and plan their next move against the evil of the world (Clarin obviously) .
Obviously the Kirshners have done loads of good and yes Macri and Clarin are evil and Menem was a cunt but that's really isn't the point. The questions are; have they done enough? Is what they are doing right now correct? And is what they are doing right now going to benefit future generations?
There's a stark difference between Nestor and the queen, at least it seemed like he had control over things and even some kind of plan, the current government reminds me more of an improvisational theater show - and not a very good one.
Apologies for the length of this post. I will now go and open some wine. (btw; when are we getting "vino para todos"?).
P.S: This is not an attack on anyone in this forum, is what I see in real world discussions around these subjects.
