The Vultures Fly Again And Again

Right, and if you think that DB are isolated from these smaller banks you are fooling yourself on a massive scale.

From a moral perspective i can see where you are coming, but practically you are being very naive if you think the fallout would be contained or somehow applicable only to the investment banking world or banking entities which do not offer personal accounts.
 
Right, and if you think that DB are isolated from these smaller banks you are fooling yourself on a massive scale.

From a moral perspective i can see where you are coming, but practically you are being very naive if you think the fallout would be contained or somehow applicable only to the investment banking world or banking entities which do not offer personal accounts.
I am not saying that it would have no impact on the rest of the economy. I just think the argument that the "regular people" and small businesses would loose their bank accounts and all their money (which was exactly the argument for the last bailout) is wrong.
 
I am not saying that it would have no impact on the rest of the economy. I just think the argument that the "regular people" and small businesses would loose their bank accounts and all their money (which was exactly the argument for the last bailout) is wrong.

They would suffer as a credit freeze occurs across the market, in all sectors while various institutions frantically calculate what they have lost and what they can call back in from debtors. Once it unwinds things might normalise but you would face a significant freeze initially for an undetermined period.
 
In the end there will only be Vultures feeding off of the carcasses of other Vultures. The Elliott virus is spawing a mass mentality.
Get some land in Mendosa and an AR15 now..............................
 
I wouldn't get too excited about gdp growing 1.1% considering that the debt to GDP ratio is way past the point of no return. There is no way a debt can be paid off after that point. They're not the only ones btw.
So it is half empty?
 
I reckon that at that point, we will see Europe as a whole just wave to the rest of the world, and then plunge down the abyss.
Always the optimist. You seem to have overlooked that we are all chained together.
 
Sorry that I could not find a source in English but this article states that German banks are the biggest creditors for Ireland with 113 billion Euros before UK with 107 billion Euros and the US with 47 billion Euros:

http://www.spiegel.d...r-a-735458.html
31 December 2009 Ireland owed 188 billion US$ to Britain, 184 bio. to Germany and 60 bio. to France.
The Irish debt to Britain (or Germany) is less than one year of EU administration spending - 2009: €114bn
 
I am not saying that it would have no impact on the rest of the economy. I just think the argument that the "regular people" and small businesses would loose their bank accounts and all their money (which was exactly the argument for the last bailout) is wrong.
As the middle class fades grudgingly into the sunset.

It's mostly the usual suspects on the latest Forbes 400 list of the wealthiest Americans: Bill Gates tops the list for the 20th consecutive year, with a net worth of $72 billion, followed by investor Warren Buffett and Oracle CEO Larry Ellison.
The Koch brothers, Charles and David, tie for fourth place, while Walton family members with an interest in retail behemoth Wal-Mart occupy positions 6 through 9.
New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, with $31 billion, comes in at No. 10. Jeff Bezos, founder and CEO of Amazon.com, is No. 12; Google's Larry Page and Sergey Brin rank 13 and 14 respectively and Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg is No. 20 on the list, with a net worth of $19 billion.
Microsoft founder and philanthropist Gates — who was briefly edged out by Mexican technology and finance tycoon Carlos Slim for the title of world's richest person — has regained the top spot globally as well.
According to Forbes:


"The 400 wealthiest Americans are worth a record $2.02 trillion, roughly equivalent to the GDP of Russia. That is a gain of $300 billion from a year ago, and more than double a decade ago. The average net worth of list members is a staggering $5 billion, $800 million more than a year ago and also a record. The minimum net worth needed to make the 400 list was $1.3 billion. The last time it was that high was in 2007 and 2008, before property and stock market values began sliding. Because the bar is so high, 61 American billionaires didn't make the cut."​
 
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