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[Sleuth]

Take a look at Sweden - parents get 13 months off with 2 months being reserved for fathers.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/10/world/europe/10iht-sweden.html

I work from home and it's great to be able to see my daughter's firsts without having to just hear about them when I get home from work...

 

[captainmcd]

This problem didn't exist when I was a kid, almost all mom's stayed home and dad was able to support the family. We didn't have so much stuff and our standard of living was lower, but that is a small price to pay that would avoid this problem. When my wife and I were raising our three kids, I worked full time and scheduled my vacations for the delivery and a few weeks after. My wife left the workplace for those five years. We were fortunate, it worked out well, and we did not have to use a system that in effect made others pay for our benefits.

 

[fifs2]

As a working mother and at the risk of being anihilated let me try to redress the extremes of this argument which seem to be have misinterpreted as Fred saying no to maternity leave and Syn girl so beautifully describing the post baby feelings and physical state of new mothers. I myself was working in the US and felt appalled at the idea of returning to work after 6 weeks maternity leave which was law in my state at that time. As luck would have it I didnt have to do so however as I was offered voluntary redundancy and transfer to Bsas instead. At 6 weeks post baby getting showered and dressed is the biggest challenge you can face in a day and fail at mostly. However at 3 months I felt great, was back at the gym and by 5 months I was working mostly full-time in Bsas. At 7 months I took my 1st business trip without the baby and enjoyed the rest and the return to the adult world.

Basically what Im trying to say is that all experiences are different and maternity leave for me at 3 months is a fair deal as long as the 3 months is the law and fully respected by all companies which doesnt seem to be the case yet. The problem with this new law as with much here is the suddeness of the change which will expose PYMES financially more than other large corporations. Extending the leave could be done gradually over 2 years which would have much less impact and be more rational. I honestly dont think Fred or other "ant-law" posters are criticising maternith leave but rather the means of introducing it as yet another populist act without thought for industry ..as usual.

And let me stress that my husband is Swedish and all our friends have enjoyed both extended maternity and paternity leave but their tax system is so established to pay for such a benefit..and this extended leave is danger of being reduced by an influx of immigrants abusing the system having multiple children successively.

 

[bebero]

This problem didn't exist when I was a kid, almost all mom's stayed home and dad was able to support the family. We didn't have so much stuff and our standard of living was lower, but that is a small price to pay that would avoid this problem. When my wife and I were raising our three kids, I worked full time and scheduled my vacations for the delivery and a few weeks after. My wife left the workplace for those five years. We were fortunate, it worked out well, and we did not have to use a system that in effect made others pay for our benefits.

your argument doesn't make any sense. do you know that some women out there actually like and want to work????? where do you live, the 1950's?

 

[captainmcd]

your argument doesn't make any sense. do you know that some women out there actually like and want to work????? where do you live, the 1950's?

Exactly! And proud of it! If a woman wants to work, that is her choice but does not necessarily need to rely on benefits paid by others, This thread was about MEN getting six months of maternity leave, which is insanity!

 

[steveinbsas]

This thread was about MEN getting six months of maternity leave, which is insanity!

And was never proposed in the first place.

 

[Davidglen77]

Take a look at Sweden - parents get 13 months off with 2 months being reserved for fathers.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/10/world/europe/10iht-sweden.html

I work from home and it's great to be able to see my daughter's firsts without having to just hear about them when I get home from work...

Ok so when Argentina gets witin 1000 light years of Sweden and Argentina becomes a well governed, progressive, non-totalitarian and non-destructive to it's own citizens, well then we can talk about doing things differently. The way the US does it seems fair to me. 3 months PAID leave for the mother and another optional 3 months UNPAID leave if requested, but the employer has to hold your job or give you a similar position when you return to work. The father gets 2 weeks time off PAID and if he wants / needs more he can request family leave UNPAID up to 3 months and the employer has to hold your job open. People who want families have to make sacrificies, and if you want time off it's your OWN responsibility not the employers. There is only so much an employer can bear if you are not there working and being productive. If you want someone to cover all of your time off, family expenses, move to a communist country (hurry there aren't many left).