Tourist visas

[Bajo_cero2]

Bajo_cero2 - yes , i understood that she can make legal documents here in Argentina. The question is - can her "illegal" status here affect obtaining L2 visa in US Embassy ? And the second is - that "fee" you pay for overstaying - it gives you any kind of legal status staying hele , or it is being payed only when you leave the country - without changing your status ?
Thanks a lot !
I forgot to mention one important thing - we are from Moldova and she cannot just cross Uruguay to get another 90 days visa ...

Unless she has a deportación order, her status is ok, she is innocent.
However, for a US visa, i suggest you consult with a specialist.

 

[La Fleur]

I've been in Argentina for 3 years, I don't do the visa run, I just pay the fee when I go home for christmas.

I did this for the third time today and the very irate member of migraciones informed me "bue, you won't be able to enter the country again." When I asked why he said it was because I had paid the fee 3 times and that if I wanted more information I should ask at a consulate.
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So here I am with a number of contradictory verbal statements from migraciones and, now that I examine it more closely, I see that the first officlal did leave a small symbol written in red pen next to my exit stamp. I can't really decipher it.

I have a flight back to Argentina and I'm very concerned that I'll get Ezeiza only to be denied entry. I'm hoping that I could get a concrete assessment of what's going on here.

Last time I left Argentine (in June 2013, via EZE) I was given a very serious lecture when I paid my fine (aka "you will never be allowed back in because you have too many stamps") and then lectured again in the same way as I went through migraciones to the plane.

However, when I came back a month later (again through EZE) I put my passport on the migraciones window without saying a word and it was handed back to me with a new 90 day visa stamped in it, again without saying a word.

Given the hit and miss application of the law here by officials, it is impossible to know in advance what will happen in such situations. What happened to me might not be the same thing as what happens to the next person in the same situation.

Bajo_cero2 has explained the law again and again in this and other threads (I don't know how he has the patience). But what many people want is actually psychological - they want to feel secure despite knowing that what they are doing (living here on a tourist visa) is legally problematic. My advice is ask yourself:

• Can I stand living with this insecurity every time I want to (or have to) leave the country? If it is wearing you out, start the process of regularising your situation (residency or citizenship). If it is not bothering you, take the risk you will be refused next time.
• What will I do if I am refused admission at the Argentine border? Have a contingency plan. Would you be willing to just go back to where you came from (or get a connection to somewhere else)? If you meet the requirements for citizenship it is possible to call a lawyer from migraciones and have the lawyer insist on your admission to the country while you go through the citizenship process. But don't expect to ring a lawyer you don't know and expect them to respond in a calm, knowledgeable and helpful way while you are in a panic - things don't work that way. Have a contingency plan that is well thought through and your backup agreed.

Personally, I couldn't stand the worry, and since I do live here and am not a tourist, I chose to get citizenship. I had expert help (you know who) and it took a long time. But now I am an Argentine, and glad of it.

La Fleur

 

[lucha54]

Last time I left Argentine (in June 2013, via EZE) I was given a very serious lecture when I paid my fine (aka "you will never be allowed back in because you have too many stamps") and then lectured again in the same way as I went through migraciones to the plane.

However, when I came back a month later (again through EZE) I put my passport on the migraciones window without saying a word and it was handed back to me with a new 90 day visa stamped in it, again without saying a word.

Given the hit and miss application of the law here by officials, it is impossible to know in advance what will happen in such situations. What happened to me might not be the same thing as what happens to the next person in the same situation.

Bajo_cero2 has explained the law again and again in this and other threads (I don't know how he has the patience). But what many people want is actually psychological - they want to feel secure despite knowing that what they are doing (living here on a tourist visa) is legally problematic. My advice is ask yourself:

• Can I stand living with this insecurity every time I want to (or have to) leave the country? If it is wearing you out, start the process of regularising your situation (residency or citizenship). If it is not bothering you, take the risk you will be refused next time.
• What will I do if I am refused admission at the Argentine border? Have a contingency plan. Would you be willing to just go back to where you came from (or get a connection to somewhere else)? If you meet the requirements for citizenship it is possible to call a lawyer from migraciones and have the lawyer insist on your admission to the country while you go through the citizenship process. But don't expect to ring a lawyer you don't know and expect them to respond in a calm, knowledgeable and helpful way while you are in a panic - things don't work that way. Have a contingency plan that is well thought through and your backup agreed.

Personally, I couldn't stand the worry, and since I do live here and am not a tourist, I chose to get citizenship. I had expert help (you know who) and it took a long time. But now I am an Argentine, and glad of it.

La Fleur

Is it true that if you enter to Argentina and they try to reject you, you can tell them that you have been LIVING here and they are required to give you 30 day minimum to regularize your status? Versus if you say "I'm here to travel" and they can look at your stamps and say, sorry, no.

 

[Bajo_cero2]

Just never confess you work here.
They might deny the entry because you can appeal from the ar consulate abroad.