Venezuela: Condones Para Pocos

[aholm]

You're probably right, there. I oversimplify. Getting in-depth is complicated. To follow the story, there is so much that has happened. I used to follow everything that happened in Venezuela extremely closely, then I realized I wanted to be happy and let go. It takes a toll. If you are a Venezuelan abroad, and read the local (independent online news sites via Facebook) and blogs, and closely follow what your family has to say - one becomes really bitter. I used to dream of moving back, not anymore.

And I'm an Americanized-Venezuelan. (My nickname in Venezuela is "el gringo" haha) - talk to a "real" Venezuelan and that person is probably really, really pissed off.

In the end, I do want people to know, it's not as simple as it seems. The injustices are huge, and they are happening three hours' flight south from the US. In the news you read about toilet paper and condoms, but think about the students who have been trying to get a degree for years and - unless they leave the country - have very little hope. It's grim.

 

[Pensador]

maybe you are missing something pensador...

The Force is strong with you Matias the dark side has utterly taken you and you do not even know it.

 

[Pensador]

You're probably right, there. I oversimplify. Getting in-depth is complicated. To follow the story, there is so much that has happened. I used to follow everything that happened in Venezuela extremely closely, then I realized I wanted to be happy and let go. It takes a toll. If you are a Venezuelan abroad, and read the local (independent online news sites via Facebook) and blogs, and closely follow what your family has to say - one becomes really bitter. I used to dream of moving back, not anymore.

And I'm an Americanized-Venezuelan. (My nickname in Venezuela is "el gringo" haha) - talk to a "real" Venezuelan and that person is probably really, really pissed off.

In the end, I do want people to know, it's not as simple as it seems. The injustices are huge, and they are happening three hours' flight south from the US. In the news you read about toilet paper and condoms, but think about the students who have been trying to get a degree for years and - unless they leave the country - have very little hope. It's grim.

Of course it is not that simple and I think your home land has only just stepped off the cliff I think there is a long way down to go yet. Even Cube has jumped ship realizing that as Ven is tapped out they better start looking for something else.

 

[wild_horses]

maybe you are missing something pensador...

Yeah a brain.

 

[Pensador]

Yeah a brain.

Does it take a brain to realize there is no revolution, there is no victory there is only shame and slow death. Does it take a brain to realize that the socialist leader is just a manipulator an actor on stage that is perhaps even more convoluted and then the K fans. Today I am sure some father, mother, daughter, brother, sister, friend, husband or wife put a loved in the ground of the socialist hell only because they could not get medicine. The revolution is starting to look like a concentration camp lets see how bad in gets in the next 18 months.

Actually I am starting to think that you and your compatriots need hearts more than brains. Sadly it seems you lack both.

 

[ajoknoblauch]

Does it take a brain to realize there is no revolution, there is no victory there is only shame and slow death. Does it take a brain to realize that the socialist leader is just a manipulator an actor on stage that is perhaps even more convoluted and then the K fans. Today I am sure some father, mother, daughter, brother, sister, friend, husband or wife put a loved in the ground of the socialist hell only because they could not get medicine. The revolution is starting to look like a concentration camp lets see how bad in gets in the next 18 months.

Actually I am starting to think that you and your compatriots need hearts more than brains. Sadly it seems you lack both.

Another person who wouldn't recognize a Socialist if zombie Salvador Allende bit him on the ass. It's a useful name-calling device, though.

 

[aholm]

"Patria, socialismo, o muerte" was Chavez' motto. It's a self-proclaimed Socialist revolution. The Chavistas are very proud of the concept of "socialismo en el sigo 21". He's not far off using the term, whether it is a perversion of socialism or not.

 

[ajoknoblauch]

"Patria, socialismo, o muerte" was Chavez' motto. It's a self-proclaimed Socialist revolution. The Chavistas are very proud of the concept of "socialismo en el sigo 21". He's not far off using the term, whether it is a perversion of socialism or not.

What Hugo was, and what he said he was, are two entirely different matters. Chavismo was a personality cult.

 

[nkotb]

Ajo: whenever socialists fail (meaning always) they claim it wasn't the system, but the implementation that was flawed. That's just idiotic, but keep hoping that someone someday will get socialism just right. Perhaps Argentina with any luck, amirite?

 

[ajoknoblauch]

Ajo: whenever socialists fail (meaning always) they claim it wasn't the system, but the implementation that was flawed. That's just idiotic, but keep hoping that someone someday will get socialism just right. Perhaps Argentina with any luck, amirite?

There are many successful socialist states, most notably in Scandinavia, where the standard of living is the highest in the world, but they don't have to blow their own horn. Personality cults like Chavismo do.

I doubt that Argentina and/or Venezuela will ever reach Scandinavian levels of success.