What's the deal about Angola anyway?

Angola exports diamonds and oil. Wonder which Cristina is after? :p

Angola needs food (badly) and everything else.

I can see the trade opportunity. Not the best of partners to have, but Cristina can't be caught with gas or energy shortages after the YPF takeover. The country still needs energy.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303448404577412340607543540.html


That's my guess on things, anyway. :p Maybe I'm wrong and she's just looking for a date.
 
The original objective of the Angola venture was to develop markets in countries with limited food supplies and growing per-capita income. Of course, now it's gotten out of hand and turned into another nationalist event for Kichneristas to cheer.

There is some sense in developing ties to African nations with a degree of economic growth. The driver is Engel's law, which is taught in Argentine economics classes. It states that as household income increases, spending on food declines as a percentage of the overall household spend. It's an obvious principle that a food-exporting nation needs to keep in mind. This actually happened early in the 20th century with traditional markets in Europe, especially with the UK, and caused a nasty trade imbalance just as the Great Depression was getting underway.

The fear is that currently growing consumers of Argentine exports (e.g. China) will reach a level of prosperity where their purchases no longer increase at the current rate, causing Argentine food exports to flatline.

So to increase food exports in the 21st century, the logic goes that Argentina needs to develop markets in Africa and Southern Asia, where standards of living are gradually coming into the 20th century (yes, I mean 20th) and the populace is beginning to have enough money to feed itself decently. Lacking developed agriculture, these regions don't produce enough food for their people, and local thinking is that they will never be able to do so, creating permanent export opportunities for AR (and AU, NZ, CA, etc.).

That said, everyone on this forum really should watch Jorge Lanata's TV show "Periodismo Para Todos," - I hope everyone gets the joke! - already mentioned a couple times on the forum. It's on Canal Trece (which appears on Cablevision's channel 12 for reasons I can't fathom) on Sunday evenings at 11, or you can watch them online at http://www.eltrecetv.com.ar/tags/periodismo-para-todos .

He's already covered the initial Angola visit, headed by Moreno (who refuses on camera to answer an Angolan reporter's questions about INDEC because "he has nothing to do with INDEC").

Then Lanata reported on the sale to Angola of 19 advanced harvesting machines that Cristina had announced in a media event where she climbed into the driver's seat (a la Dukakis and the tank). He showed that the only harvester yet built here is a prototype that was assembled for the trade show by some government crony businessmen using government loans and that doesn't even work....

Tomorrow's show focuses on Cristina's Angola mission. Not to be missed.
 
But these articles contribute info to my limited knowledge of Angola

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15790127
18 November 2011 …."The IMF has agreed to give Portugal a $107bn bailout on condition that it introduces a wide range of economic reforms - including privatisation. Analysts say Angola could buy stakes in some of the privatised companies. Angola's investments in Portugal have risen sharply in recent years"…..

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/20/w...financial-crisis-leads-it-back-to-angola.html
….."The Angolan state oil company already owns 12.4 percent of Portugal’s biggest private bank, Millennium BCP, and the president’s daughter Isabel, said by scholars to be not coincidentally the country’s leading businesswoman, bought 10 percent of a dominant Portuguese media company, Zon, in 2009....

....There is this unusual situation where the former colonial power, Portugal, is desperately looking for financial investors,” said Paulo Gorjao of the Portuguese Institute of International Relations and Security. “The Angolans have the money.”….

http://www.transparency.org/news/pressrelease/20120507_Portugal_anti-corruption_efforts

Posted 7 May 2012….."Results also point out the corruption risks associated with the austerity policies currently being implemented as a result of Portugal's bailout by the EU and the IMF. «Measures such as privatizations, the renegotiation of Public-Private Partnerships or the restructuring of the Defence sector should be absolutely transparent. Sadly, the rush with which these policies are being undertaken can hide very shady deals. Likewise, budget cuts in the Justice sector and in Public Administration weaken fundamental pillars of Portuguese society and may make public officials, judges and magistrates more susceptible to pressures or bribes», Luís de Sousa says"…..
 
well, i just read at wikipedia that 85 percent of Angola exports are gas and oil. They also imports foods.
If you remember, repsol cancel the supply of gas.

So, perhaps she is looking for a new supplier of gas who accepts food and argentine goods instead of dollards.

Argentine products, mainly, cannot be exported to europe. However, the market at Angola is less picky and they grew 18, 25 % depending of the year.

Crazy? Smart? You decide.
 
Agricultural products for oil, probably as simple as that.

Sure Angola is corrupt, a dictatorship, etc...but there isn't one economic power that doesn't do business with corrupt 3rd world governments who treat their own citizens horribly.

Does it make the arg gov't hypocritical that they are doing business with another gov't with poor human rights records...maybe, but thats reality. The western powers do business with the Saudi's, can't see how that is any different than doing biz with Angola.
 
MikeB12 said:
Agricultural products for oil, probably as simple as that.

Sure Angola is corrupt, a dictatorship, etc...but there isn't one economic power that doesn't do business with corrupt 3rd world governments who treat their own citizens horribly.

Does it make the arg gov't hypocritical that they are doing business with another gov't with poor human rights records...maybe, but thats reality. The western powers do business with the Saudi's, can't see how that is any different than doing biz with Angola.

Any Western power that sended there president or head of state on a diplomatic/trade mission to Angola?
 
What's the deal with Angola? LNG (natural gas)new LNG loading facility:Soyo Angola.

Repsol cancelled contract, Argentina could not provide a letter of credit as stipulated in about every commodity contract on the planet. Country is broke folks.
 
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