Why do you choose Argentina?

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

Cost of food has increased +300% in the last 4 years here. That most certainly is not something you have to deal with in any developed country.
Wages have in no way caught up with that.

 

[Redpossum]

Horrible poverty in the US does not compare to horrible poverty in Formosa. Poverty is also far more widespread in Argentina. Five yr old children trying to sell you socks when you go for a coffee is not something you will experience in the US.

The US is in decadence but Argentina will always be poorer and less developed relatively.. unless/until China takes over.

Because you know everything about the USA? All 50 states, all 330 million people?

 

[Greg S]

Because you know everything about the USA? All 50 states, all 330 million people?

I'd much prefer kids selling socks to this. And this is at most urban Starbucks in the USA. They allow homeless, bums, drug addicts to hang out as long as they want. Inside and outside the store. Wake up, folks. This is the WORLD now. Naivete is only charming on first dates.

 

[¡Sencillamente yo!]

Homelessness is a sad condition, no doubt. And I have never been down and out, so I really can't relate to it, but it seems to me that what happened to that Starbucks location is foolishness. There is no way the location should have hosted these poor people at the expense of their customers not patronizing the location. (Some liberal crap idea I guess????????????????

 

[¡Sencillamente yo!]

And another thing, homeless people are definitely human beings who have worth and value, but how do you even begin to fix a problem like that?

Nobody or group seems to have a solution.

 

[Ries]

It's interesting.....wages have been stagnant in the US for decades and discretionary income has declined considerably.....however.....when the cost of items do rise , as they constantly do, it's promoted as indicative of a strong business environment......inflation, nope, nothing to see here, move along

This is very true.
When I entered the labor force, in about 1973, a weldor could make between fifteen and 20 dollars and hour. A union apprentice at the naval shipyard started at 16, and could get up to 24 in a few years. A house was 30,000, a new pickup was 3000.
Now, in 2021, a weldor can make between fifteen and 20 dollars an hour. There are about 1/10 the number of Union jobs there were then, and they do pay more- in the high 20s up to 40s depending on how many years you have been in the business. But they are impossible to get. My State Local of the Ironworkers Union has been accepting ZERO apprentices for the last few years.

but now, a house in my area is a half million dollars, a new truck is 40,000.

Same wage, but inflation has made most things cost ten times or twenty times as much.

My son, who was waiting tables in a restaurant, was paying $1300 a month in Seattle for a one room (not one bedroom, one room) apartment. That was cheap- many one room apartments there are 2000- 2500 a month. PLUS utilities, and Argentines live in dreamland when it comes to utility prices.
There are opportunities in the USA, for sure. But EVERYTHING is expensive. and constantly getting more so. Being able to buy an Apple Iphone at list price is great, but it doesnt make up for the fact that the average american doesnt make enough money to rent an apartment without sharing.

By all means, move where you want, but Argentina has a lot of good things going for it.

 

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

A welder would be lucky to make $1000USD a month in Argentina. And property is all in USD.

 

[Ries]

cost of living versus salary is whats important. Making 20 bucks an hour sounds great in Argentina. But when you are spending 40,000 a year for food, health insurance, and food, you end up living a lot like someone living in a villa. I know people who make things in Argentina- furniture, metal products, textiles, and people who do construction and repairs- and their standard of living, income versus expenses, is better than many US residents. There are so many things Argentines dont pay for, or pay so little for, that they dont know what they dont know about working in the USA. Again, socialist europe is a much better choice- unions, health care, unemployment, public housing- they have all that stuff.

 

[Silvie]

I think the bottom line is most expats who come here have either a dollar income or dollar savings to lean on, which makes living in Buenos Aires and other select parts of Argentina a nice experience.

Bingo!

 

[jblaze5779]

In the USA most food service jobs are not meant to be lifelong careers. Yes some people in fine establishments create a career out of providing this service but for the most part food service is an introduction to the work force.

Also, nobody forces your son to live in Seattle. If he finds the area to be too expensive for his earning power he could go make 2.13 in middle America and live a much higher quality of life. Perhaps not with all the big city advantages that Seattle brings but this is a personal choice. No need to pay that much for an apartment when he could live in a comparable area for a third of the price. Maybe move to Texas like all of the coastals that have ruined their own states and now seek to move for relief to a cheaper state yet still bring their same ruinous ways with them.