Why Things Cost What They Cost In Argentina

Davidglen77

Registered
Joined
Jul 31, 2007
Messages
1,879
Likes
1,848
Each time you go into that retail store and say to yourself, "geez everything is so darn expensive" well here's why - these are the costs of running a business here: Monthly maintenance bank account fee $175 pesos + IVA 21%
E-Mail monthly statement $15 pesos + IVA 21%
Posnet device (to accept credit cards) $200 pesos + IVA monthly
Each credit card transaction 3% of total sale comission paid to bank + IVA(money credited in 30 days)
Each debit card transaction 1.5% of total sale comission paid to bank (money credited in 7 days)
Visa (Maintenance fee) $10 pesos
Mastercard (Maintenance fee) $10 pesos
Argencard (Maintenance fee) $10 pesos
American Express (Maintenance fee) $10 pesos
Everytime a deposit is made 0,06% impuesto al credito
Everytime a withdrawal is made 0,06% impuesto al debito
Book of 50 checks $100 pesos
So bank fees for a small retail business are easily $1,000 to $1,500 pesos per month
Then, if you have employees, on top of their monthly salary, which increases around 20% per year, you have 58% of their salary addtional to pay in social security taxes. Plus a required 13th salary called "aguinaldo", and there are 19 official holidays, if any employee works any of those days they get paid double wages. Transportation of any goods within Argentina is extremely expensive and uncompetitive. All trucks belong to the same union so prices are the same, no factory can search around for a more competitive price to ship their goods to their customers. Even if you are independent and own a truck you have to pay the trucker's union for an expensive permit to be able to operate on the road if you don't you get your truck impounded. Also what they call here "patente" motor vehicle registration tax can easily cost $500 pesos per month and you have to pay it every single month unless the car or truck is over 10 years old. To ship soybeans by truck from LaPampa to the port in Rosario costs just as much as the shipping costs by shipping them to China by sea from Argentina.
Then the bigger taxes 21% IVA on everything, 3% ingresos brutos, then on any profit you make 35% ganancias tax. And we are just talking about goods produced in Argentina, if you are talking about imported goods add another 50% to the cost for customs and import taxes!
Do you understand why things cost what they cost in Argentina? Unless this changes things will never be inexpensive here. All of these costs are built into that bag of chips, refrigerator, and bottle of soda you want to buy. And remember many these costs are not only being paid by the retail store, but by every other part of the chain so by the time you pay for the item these costs have been magnified many times - producer of raw materials, manufacturer, shipper, retail and finally YOU the consumer!
 
But heath care and education are free. Rejoice everyone!
 
Each time you go into that retail store and say to yourself, "geez everything is so darn expensive" well here's why - these are the costs of running a business here: Monthly maintenance bank account fee $175 pesos + IVA 21%
E-Mail monthly statement $15 pesos + IVA 21%
Posnet device (to accept credit cards) $200 pesos + IVA monthly
Each credit card transaction 3% of total sale comission paid to bank + IVA(money credited in 30 days)
Each debit card transaction 1.5% of total sale comission paid to bank (money credited in 7 days)
Visa (Maintenance fee) $10 pesos
Mastercard (Maintenance fee) $10 pesos
Argencard (Maintenance fee) $10 pesos
American Express (Maintenance fee) $10 pesos
Everytime a deposit is made 0,06% impuesto al credito
Everytime a withdrawal is made 0,06% impuesto al debito
Book of 50 checks $100 pesos
So bank fees for a small retail business are easily $1,000 to $1,500 pesos per month
Then, if you have employees, on top of their monthly salary, which increases around 20% per year, you have 58% of their salary addtional to pay in social security taxes. Plus a required 13th salary called "aguinaldo", and there are 19 official holidays, if any employee works any of those days they get paid double wages. Transportation of any goods within Argentina is extremely expensive and uncompetitive. All trucks belong to the same union so prices are the same, no factory can search around for a more competitive price to ship their goods to their customers. Even if you are independent and own a truck you have to pay the trucker's union for an expensive permit to be able to operate on the road if you don't you get your truck impounded. Also what they call here "patente" motor vehicle registration tax can easily cost $500 pesos per month and you have to pay it every single month unless the car or truck is over 10 years old. To ship soybeans by truck from LaPampa to the port in Rosario costs just as much as the shipping costs by shipping them to China by sea from Argentina.
Then the bigger taxes 21% IVA on everything, 3% ingresos brutos, then on any profit you make 35% ganancias tax. And we are just talking about goods produced in Argentina, if you are talking about imported goods add another 50% to the cost for customs and import taxes!
Do you understand why things cost what they cost in Argentina? Unless this changes things will never be inexpensive here. All of these costs are built into that bag of chips, refrigerator, and bottle of soda you want to buy. And remember many these costs are not only being paid by the retail store, but by every other part of the chain so by the time you pay for the item these costs have been magnified many times - producer of raw materials, manufacturer, shipper, retail and finally YOU the consumer!
Thank you so much for illuminating the situation so very clearly...it's so very sad for the consumer and business alike. It's like, why bother?
 
These figures are actually based on my OWN personal experience. Some of you may or may not remember I used to own a small retail business here and miraculously, I made a profit every single month I was open. You really have to know what you are doing here to make it work. Every other delivery of merchandise there were price increases and if you don't make adjustments you can easily start losing money. Also when you have a business here everybody thinks you are loaded with money and tries to sell you advertising, get donations for every charity (many of them fake) and let's not forget about the armed robberies www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ypn-gjCETr4 the bribe hungry inspectors www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHE036JWNf8 and the constant headache of burocratic crap!! www.escrachados.com
 
Then, if you have employees, on top of their monthly salary, which increases around 20% per year, you have 58% of their salary addtional to pay in social security taxes.

Wow ... so if the salary was ... let's say 10000 pesos - you would have to pay 5800 pesos in social security on top? Or do the 58% include the social security the employee has to pay?
 
Wow ... so if the salary was ... let's say 10000 pesos - you would have to pay 5800 pesos in social security on top? Or do the 58% include the social security the employee has to pay?

I think he's talking about the part the employer has to pay only.
 
Wow ... so if the salary was ... let's say 10000 pesos - you would have to pay 5800 pesos in social security on top? Or do the 58% include the social security the employee has to pay?
That is correct. The employer pays an ADDITIONAL $5,800 pesos on TOP of the $10,000 gross salary. The employee also pays 17% of their salary in payroll taxes if they make under $15,000 gross and about 25% if they earn abobr $15,000 gross. So the employee that earns $10,000 gross is left with $8,300 in hand and it costs the employer $15,800 monthly!!
 
Back
Top