5 Most Common Excuses Argentines Like To Use
- Thread starter garryl
- Start date
Gabby yes you can leave work in working hours for necessary appointments. It's called acting like an adult, liasing with your employer and working the necessary hours to compensate. That's how it is in our company. All our staff all Arg) enjoy flex hours, twice yearly pay review and performance related bonuses, profit sharing and company shares for snrs. What you give in life you tend to get back in buckets in return. Have a winning attitude and you'll be surprised how much easier life can be.
GS_Dirtboy
Registered
- Joined
- Mar 10, 2012
- Messages
- 2,495
- Likes
- 4,316
We've moved from the most common excuses by Argentines onto the most common deflection / attack by Argentines. At least you could have been original.
mc kenna
Registered
- Joined
- Jul 16, 2013
- Messages
- 917
- Likes
- 1,649
OH hell i wanna work for your company!!!
Hybrid Ambassador
Registered
- Joined
- Sep 24, 2012
- Messages
- 1,851
- Likes
- 568
I don't do "sound bytes"
But 'snippets of audio' is necessary before you buy the album in itunes. Never buy the entire music album by its book cover looks!
So sound bytes mostly needed for the entire book reading!
A "sound byte" does not contain sufficient information to support a position, it merely gives the position and leaves a vacuum as to why anyone would support such a position. And therefore equating intellectual discourse with hearing a bit of music to determine if you want to buy an album is also a false analogy - in my opinion and according to my position on the matter
"Sound bytes" in my comment refers to politicians, at least in the US, who make a short comment on the TV that fits within a few seconds of airtime that summarizes their position. The problem with sound bytes in this sense is that there is no discussion, no argument, just a bunch of short comments that people begin to take as fact or, conversely, shrug off as nonsense. They are used because supposedly people are not capable of the attention span required to understand the points behind a position. Also, if you repeat something often enough, people will begin to believe it and by extension, the less extraneous the information presented, the more likely people will believe it whether it has basis in reality or not (Goebbels was an artist at this - take a look at the Nazi propaganda machine).
Without complete discussion of the facts as people see them, it is easy to start slipping in meme-generating concepts that become accepted all to easily and no one ever has the opportunity to discuss and think critically related to a specific topic.
I certainly write too much at times, but I would rather err on the side of too much information than too little. It is a waste of my time to throw out a couple of comments that are not backed up by examples or discussion of specific points, when talking about something I consider serious. Without information to backup a statement, others to whom I am communicating don't have any reason to reconsider their own positions, as I do on a continual basis when presented with information that I can use to evaluate my own positions.
In this particular case, I could have said simply "equating expats blowing off steam on an expat forum is not the same as equating rude behavior in a host's house, as a guest". The problem with just stating this brief position is that there is more tied up in the concept I am advancing than just the wrongly-suited analogy. It would have been a waste of time to stop with the quote just given because it would have done nothing to change anyone's mind, or at least offer an alternative to the other position posited.
Of course, if people will not read what I write, that is also a problem, but at least I have done my part. I have more chance of convincing someone else of a different position to their own if they read, and those who read are more likely to consider my position than those who don't. I try not to write to the lowest common denominator.
"Sound bytes" in my comment refers to politicians, at least in the US, who make a short comment on the TV that fits within a few seconds of airtime that summarizes their position. The problem with sound bytes in this sense is that there is no discussion, no argument, just a bunch of short comments that people begin to take as fact or, conversely, shrug off as nonsense. They are used because supposedly people are not capable of the attention span required to understand the points behind a position. Also, if you repeat something often enough, people will begin to believe it and by extension, the less extraneous the information presented, the more likely people will believe it whether it has basis in reality or not (Goebbels was an artist at this - take a look at the Nazi propaganda machine).
Without complete discussion of the facts as people see them, it is easy to start slipping in meme-generating concepts that become accepted all to easily and no one ever has the opportunity to discuss and think critically related to a specific topic.
I certainly write too much at times, but I would rather err on the side of too much information than too little. It is a waste of my time to throw out a couple of comments that are not backed up by examples or discussion of specific points, when talking about something I consider serious. Without information to backup a statement, others to whom I am communicating don't have any reason to reconsider their own positions, as I do on a continual basis when presented with information that I can use to evaluate my own positions.
In this particular case, I could have said simply "equating expats blowing off steam on an expat forum is not the same as equating rude behavior in a host's house, as a guest". The problem with just stating this brief position is that there is more tied up in the concept I am advancing than just the wrongly-suited analogy. It would have been a waste of time to stop with the quote just given because it would have done nothing to change anyone's mind, or at least offer an alternative to the other position posited.
Of course, if people will not read what I write, that is also a problem, but at least I have done my part. I have more chance of convincing someone else of a different position to their own if they read, and those who read are more likely to consider my position than those who don't. I try not to write to the lowest common denominator.
I love the irony that your commentary on sound bytes is so long! However, I do, more often than not, read all of your long winded posts. I think you bring a level headed point of view to things, thanks for taking the time you take to write, it does get read!
A "sound byte" does not contain sufficient information to support a position, it merely gives the position and leaves a vacuum as to why anyone would support such a position. And therefore equating intellectual discourse with hearing a bit of music to determine if you want to buy an album is also a false analogy - in my opinion and according to my position on the matter
Totally agree with irina - even though ElQueso's post could sometimes be reduced a bit without loss of information, I find his posts always thorough, making a clear point for his argument - a quality that is lacking too often nowadays. For the original post at hand though, the real irony is, however, that claiming "expats bitch about argentina" is not appropriate as it's their home and writing this in an expat forum
