90 day visa

[MizzMarr]

And for the record " permatourism " doesn't exist. It is a made up term used by illegal aliens to feel slightly better about what they are doing.

There are tourists and temporary residents and permanent residents, that is all the countries law recognizes. Everybody else is illegal " alien or immigrant " ( depending on whether youre a republican or democrat ).

Actually the real term used by Migraciones is "turista falsa".

On another note--does anybody have any information regarding double taxation? I pay my taxes on income in the States, but I have a sneaking feeling that won't matter one lick to Argentine authorities (rentista).

eta: sorry if this is too off topic and should be another thread, I could start one up?

 

[rockinkaj]

Lots of Bolivianos get married while illegal. The only time your illegal status will come up is if you exit the country or are arrested.

Yes but I think being a Bolivian also Chilean and Mercosur they do not require a visa..correct me if I am wrong...or am I misinterpreting what you are saying..

 

[gunt86]

Yes but I think being a Bolivian also Chilean and Mercosur they do not require a visa..correct me if I am wrong...or am I misinterpreting what you are saying..

Everyone needs a visa of some kind of another.
Don't worry, just overstay and get married. I have a friend that overstayed for 4 years. He never left the country the entire time. He even had a child in Argentina. Then he used his Argentine child to qualify himself for permanent residency.
What i am saying is that you have a choice:
1) obey the law and leave Aug 27th.
2) overstay and be trapped in argentina until you get married and legalized. keep in mind that while the punishment for overstay is AR$300 right now, it could be changed to something more severe like 5 year ban. So in the event that you overstay and do not get married/legalized, then your exit from Argentina might have some bad consequences (or it might not).

 

[gunt86]

On another note--does anybody have any information regarding double taxation? I pay my taxes on income in the States, but I have a sneaking feeling that won't matter one lick to Argentine authorities (rentista)

Indeed on the face of it, it doesn't matter to AFIP that you paid your taxes in the US. You are an Argentine tax resident first and foremost, that is your primary taxation authority. I assume you have been filing taxes every year? Get yourself a good accountant, someone that deals with wealthly argentines. The reason i say this is that wealthy argentines have lots of outside-argentina income, so the accountant will be familiar on what to do, as you should be able to get tax credits for taxes paid abroad. The US taxation is a side note and only occurs because you happen to be a US citizen as well or that the assets you have generating income are located in the US.

 

[dennisr]

Wondering what is the worst case scenario for overstaying on a Tourist Visa?
A fine and please do not return?

 

[Bajo_cero2]

Actually the real term used by Migraciones is "turista falsa".

On another note--does anybody have any information regarding double taxation? I pay my taxes on income in the States, but I have a sneaking feeling that won't matter one lick to Argentine authorities (rentista).

eta: sorry if this is too off topic and should be another thread, I could start one up?

The fact is that the term turista falsa is wrong and this is because the migration agents are ignorant. According to the Constitution there are only citizens, inhabitants and tourist. If you are not a tourist, them you are an inhabitant. Inhabitants have the same rights than citizens. If a citizen cannot be deported, an inhabitant neither.

Double taxation is forbidden by law. If you probe you pay taxes there you don´t pay taxes on the same item here.

Regards

 

[Bajo_cero2]

Wondering what is the worst case scenario for overstaying on a Tourist Visa?
A fine and please do not return?

You became an inhabitant and after two years you can start a case at Court asking for your citizenship.

Regards

 

[Bajo_cero2]

Yes but I think being a Bolivian also Chilean and Mercosur they do not require a visa..correct me if I am wrong...or am I misinterpreting what you are saying..

They don´t need it. If they want a residence, they must probe they are mercosur citizens with no criminal records and that´s it. However, if they do that is a mistake because citizenship is easier.
Deportation have been forbidden by decreto some years ago.
Regards

 

[steveinbsas]

On another note--does anybody have any information regarding double taxation? I pay my taxes on income in the States, but I have a sneaking feeling that won't matter one lick to Argentine authorities (rentista).

If you live in Argentina more than 180 days of the year, your worldwide income and assets are taxable in Argentina. Even if you are paying tax on investment (passive) income in the US, the ingresos for the visa might be taxable in Argentina, but you will need a good Argentine accountant. The assets that generate the income are also subject to the bienes personales tax.

I am not sure how passive income at the level now required for the visa rentista is taxed here. I declared my ingresos for the visa rentista for three years, but the previous income requirement fell below taxable levels. This is why few (if any) temporary residents paid tax in Argentina on this income in the past.

The $85,000+ tax exemption in the US applies only to active income earned in Argentina.

 

[rockinkaj]

Everyone needs a visa of some kind of another.
Don't worry, just overstay and get married. I have a friend that overstayed for 4 years. He never left the country the entire time. He even had a child in Argentina. Then he used his Argentine child to qualify himself for permanent residency.
What i am saying is that you have a choice:
1) obey the law and leave Aug 27th.
2) overstay and be trapped in argentina until you get married and legalized. keep in mind that while the punishment for overstay is AR$300 right now, it could be changed to something more severe like 5 year ban. So in the event that you overstay and do not get married/legalized, then your exit from Argentina might have some bad consequences (or it might not).

Yes but having a child in Argentina I think would automatically be in your favor no.. but my question is .. if I do decide to overstay and get marrried in lets say 2 or 3 months from now.. would they tell me I cannot because I am illegal... this if my fear