Aerolineas Cancellations

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The Buenos Aires Herald's coverage of this is amazing.

http://www.buenosair...t-woes-continue

Seems it's no longer "flight" woes

http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/194632/aerol%C3%ADneas%E2%80%99-woes-continue

Everyone is wrong, it was "a drastic attempt to clear the backlog of flights disrupted by the unprecedented demand witnessed since Saturday"
 
7LuO9d2.jpg


The Buenos Aires Herald's coverage of this is amazing.

http://www.buenosair...t-woes-continue

Seems it's no longer "flight" woes

http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/194632/aerol%C3%ADneas%E2%80%99-woes-continue

Everyone is wrong, it was "a drastic attempt to clear the backlog of flights disrupted by the unprecedented demand witnessed since Saturday"

I wonder how many people actually get that image.

Buho likes to "hoot" about the "facts," but the "facts" have changed 2-3 times in the last 2 days. I've never seen high demand stop planes from leaving the ground. I guess Argentina is so egalitarian that if everyone can't fly, no one flies.
 
Clarin, La Nacion, Buenos Aires Herals - they all lie!

Instead people should believe Recalde's ever changing story. Instead of choripans, this week's gift for believers is some fine sushi quality fish 'a la bajo_cero':
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By the way, the bit about there being no more cancelations is simply a lie. There's a whole bunch of flights I can show you right now on my reservations system - which happens to be the one that Aerolineas uses internally as well, so no accuracy issues - that are available for 12 August, and exactly the same for 5 August, but which simply don't appear for next Wednesday, 29 July. Same for other days. These missing flights miraculously happen to coincide with La Nacion's list of cancelled flights.

Ultimately, every country gets the apologists it deserves. I am amazed by the fact that the very people who live here, who do travel and claim that Aerolineas makes this travel more possible, aren't up in arms over this. That Recalde does not recoil in fear of being laughed out of town when giving these pathetic excuses.

When 200 flights nationwide are cancelled, you don't put weather in 2 cities affecting maybe 10-15 routes on the list of reasons. In normal settings that item would be put last if at all, upon penalty of merciless mockery.

You don't list 'presiones gremiales' - everybody knew vacation was coming, and you knew that the unions knew this. Either the pilots were WAY out of line, in which case your second press release of the day - (after total radio silence beyond 2 days of empty blathering that everything 'esta normalizando') - should be about naming and shaming them, rather than calling out Clarin for inaccurate reporting on the reasons*. Or they weren't out of line, in which case desmanejo is exactly the right word - as senior management, you make sure shit like this won't happen, talk to your unions, deal with the situation.

(really this could be another post. Aerolineas put out two press releases today. The first is the stupid "how dare you not realize how awesome we are" piece that we're in the middle of dissecting. The second is titled, I kid you not, "CLARÍN FALTA A LA VERDAD UNA VEZ MÁS". It dedicates a paragraph to showing how out of touch Clarin is with reality: they stated that Aerolineas has 66 planes, whereas they actually have... 73. I read a fairly large amount of press releases, and I have yet to see anything nearly as juvenile. Don't remember anything that even came close. Also reminded me of Stephen Colbert's takedown of Asiana Air's juvenile indignation about a racial joke, in the face of a spectacularly disastrous landing at SFO).

And you sure as hell don't blame a nationwide shutdown on one of the busiest weeks on 'maintenance', unless you wish to demonstrate ignorance of the term 'amateur hour'.

Anywhere on the planet, this would be grounds enough if not for a few C-level heads to roll, at least to not say anything to look stupider than your actions have made you look already. Over here? Argue over the trees so we can all pretend there is no forest.
 
I have resigned myself that things simply 'work differently' here... Those that make the rules are complete idiots - the system is diseased. All the Argentines I know have basically accepted this fact and no longer put energy into wishing for change. I myself tried to 'fight the system' where I saw wrongs and also learnt that you can't argue with an idiocy. I had a nice gentlemen at Aerolineas Argentina try and tell me that my girlfriend wouldn't be getting any refund for her cancelled flight until 6 months later (the date the last cuota would have been taken out of her account). Of course when I explained how stupid that was (I had to explain the concept of inflation and how 1 peso now is not worth 1 peso in 6 months). I asked to speak to his boss and he changed his tune and said the problem was the credit card company and I needed to call them. Received a phone call an hour later apologizing and saying the refund papers had not been processed in Buenos Aires by Aerolineas Argentina (It had been 1 month since the flight got cancelled) and we would get a full refund next month.. Total circus...

The key to success here.. Good friends and close family - everyone here has figured it out already. Don't invest too much energy into trying to change the wrongs you see or the current state of the system. We have examples in front of us on this forum what happens when you try and discuss a topic with someone who has drowned in the cool aid of what Cristina and the muppets up top are selling.
 
I wonder how many people actually get that image.

Buho likes to "hoot" about the "facts," but the "facts" have changed 2-3 times in the last 2 days. I've never seen high demand stop planes from leaving the ground. I guess Argentina is so egalitarian that if everyone can't fly, no one flies.

Well, this is, perhaps, because you don't know how does it work out.

Without euphemisms, to ork by the book means that they work 8 hours per day (or whatever they do), so, the flight is delayed and then, ups, it is time to go home and they go home instead of taking the airplane. This is the way a mild union boycott works.

When they do this in many flights at the same time, the system collapses.

But BTF, you don't care, go and flight with LAN and vote fir DT.
 
Clarin, La Nacion, Buenos Aires Herals - they all lie!

Instead people should believe Recalde's ever changing story. Instead of choripans, this week's gift for believers is some fine sushi quality fish 'a la bajo_cero':
Brendan-McGarry-101102-00042.jpg

Seems that you didn't read the BH you quote... It says the same than me.
 
Well, this is, perhaps, because you don't know how does it work out.

Without euphemisms, to ork by the book means that they work 8 hours per day (or whatever they do), so, the flight is delayed and then, ups, it is time to go home and they go home instead of taking the airplane. This is the way a mild union boycott works.

When they do this in many flights at the same time, the system collapses.

But BTF, you don't care, go and flight with LAN and vote fir DT.

You don't understand anything about airlines, or logistics in general, if you think that cancellations in one region cause the entire system to collapse. It certainly doesn't in most of the rest of the world.

But, maybe you are right. Aerolineas Argentinas is so incompetently run that may a delay in Bariloche collapses the entire system.

I'll be buying two tickets in the next week or so. I will absolutely not fly Aerolineas Argentinas. I am sure I am not alone.
 
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