Aerolineas, we're through

[mariposa]

Oh man...AA's flight crew are all OLD and FAT!!

i thought you had cut your losses and are back in miami or wherever you retreated to to lick your wounds, so why not leave this website alone with your toxic crap? good-bye already, get a f----ing life!!

 

[dani28]

It says a lot about the type of company that Aerolineas Argentinas is and their modus operandus, when they post a public PR statement calling Clarin, which regarldess of what anyone says is still one of the most widely-read newspapers in the country, liars.

We ex-pats know that many newspapers both in the US and in Europe have criticized extensively many of our airlines (Iberia, American, British, Delta, etc etc) for numerous reasons, in the last couple of years, and never has any airline to my knowledge made such a harsh public rebutal against any media similar to this. Please correct me if Im wrong.

I think its time that AR look for a new public relations team. I think its time AR look for a lot of other new people for their management team. I think its time AR start thinking seriously and globally, and not just on a local CFK bandwagon type of management style, especially if they are supposedly going to be joining the Sky Team airline alliance in the league of Delta and Air France by 2012. (Which I doubt will happen)

 

[ReemsterCARP]

I simply do not understand how someone can justify running a company that loses about 700 million dollars a year with taxpayers money. Especially when that company is providing a service that only the wealthy can afford to use.

Imagine what the government COULD do with 700 million dollars a year! As a friend of mine stated: you can solve the AA problem with just three words: "Están todos despedidos".

 

[Davidglen77]

David the national government, this national government, still the best chance this country have after a very long time in the darkness and is forging ahead for a change in attitudes in all that you mentioned above, amen all the forces that are pushing against for those goals just because they are son of the bitches without any better things to do, just pure and simple malice they want to continue with that same 'things' that you, I and the vast majority of the Argentines wish to be eradicated for good from this society and country.
Big job this president have in front of her and the bastards are trying very hard for this not to be a success. Please David help her as many are doing and don't get involved with the hateful messages of those who may ill advice you in modeling your conclusions.

Lucas, thanks for your feedback. I love Argentina, however I have suffered here in many ways, I love my partner, my friends, the land, but the government and it's constant corruption has affected my life in a very negative way. Even though I have been through many difficult situations here, I still choose to stay, I don't know forever, but I am a fighter and a strong willed person and am doing everything I can to keep my head up here.

Until Argentina can solve it's deep seated corruption this country will continue to slide downhill. The people here will never be truly free if what happened to me here, happens over and over again to so many Argentines, and never gets resolved, not by the people, not by a judge, not by anyone who cares.

I don't think this government is capable of running an airline. In my opinion they should shut it down, or sell it. The united states does not have a government run airline and nobody really cares. The airlines are all private companies and thats what companies should be - private. Governments need to administer it's people's needs - health, housing, education, growth, jobs, foreign policy not run a money losing airline.

 

[henryb]

The united states does not have a government run airline and nobody really cares. The airlines are all private companies and thats what companies should be - private.

The United States has a lot of companies that are run by the government. Amtrak, for example. It is not an airline, evidently, but it is still a transportation company that is heavily subsidized.

 

[Davidglen77]

The United States has a lot of companies that are run by the government. Amtrak, for example. It is not an airline, evidently, but it is still a transportation company that is heavily subsidized.

While true the US government does subsidize Amtrak, let's see how top heavy they are, how many people are on their payrolls collecting exorbitant salaries and not working, if their payrolls constantly increase and service level decreases, if they strike and threaten to shut down service and play volley with peoples travel plans.......I don't think so.

 

[ElQueso]

While true the US government does subsidize Amtrak, let's see how top heavy they are, how many people are on their payrolls collecting exorbitant salaries and not working, if their payrolls constantly increase and service level decreases, if they strike and threaten to shut down service and play volley with peoples travel plans.......I don't think so.

Not only that, but let's see how the US government hits back at newspapers for voicing criticism of Amtrak. Doesn't happen, not like government-run stuff happens here.

Lucas seems to me to be a Peronista. He seems to skip over the fact that things here cost two-three times what they should (I'm talking about services, not commercial products - that's another issue) because everyone in the chain of command has to take their "coima" for things to get done, along with the policies Davidglen mentions. The fact that Cristina (and previously Nestor) basically pay the poor, who are quite ignorant (a fact the government helps to foster by having crappy public schools), to vote for them by giving away thngs and making prices cheaper for a short time, when it's necessary, IN THE POOR NEIGHBORHOODS ONLY, to win an election.

I have an older sister-in-law who chooses to live in a Villa (slum) because it's cheap. There's a TON of peronista propoganda there. She says "Cristina is for the worker!" and when we try to have a conversation, she can't seem to actually name one thing that Cristina "does" for the worker. But she can sure tell you how the forces of evil prevent Cristina from accomplishing her goals...

The peronistas ( and fascists from which the Peronistas came, and other socialists, communists, etc) always seem to bitch and moan about the enemies against "forces of progress" who just never quite seem to allow their policies to work properly - it's always someone else's fault, never the policies or the people implementing them - nor do they mention the extremely high level of corruption that pervades things and is fostered by a system that REQUIRES cronyism and corruption to win power to begin with.

Granted there was no one better to run against Cristina in the Presidential election - how could there be when her party controls so much of the political and economic power of the country?

 

[ElQueso]

The United States has a lot of companies that are run by the government. Amtrak, for example. It is not an airline, evidently, but it is still a transportation company that is heavily subsidized.

Absolutely correct, and in my opinion subsidies are the worst thing a country can do in the long run. Ask the people who are soon going to have to pay 4 pesos or so for a bus ride (from what, 1.10 or 1.20?), or watch the prices of their utilities sky-rocket, as the government pulls out the subsidies that have been in place for so long.

And the opposite, taxing exports like crazy and destroying industries like the meat industry here in Argentina, where the country now has to import from countries like Paraguay and watch the meat prices increase even more. And in Paraguay, it's having a similar effect because no one wants to sell at a good price locally when they can export for a much higher price. Talk about domino effects...

And notice that the loss of subsidies is going to happen AFTER the election, as the governments dollar reserves (lately stolen from the private pensions of the country) are so low the government is unable to artificially keep the price of the peso low to the dollar. If they were really interested in helping people, they would have done this a long time ago when inflation was not so bad and the peso was closer to the dollar.

When I first came here in 2006, the peso was 2.8 to the dollar (or so, somewhere around there as memory serves).

There is corrutpion everywhere - even in the US. The US is falling year by year because of this, and because socialists are winning too many victories against idiotic conservatives who put too much importance on regulating social behavior and not enough on providing true law and order EQUALLY within a truly free market. (I'm a Libertarian, but not as extreme as Ron Paul).

In reality, the entire world is going to hell in a handbasket!

 

[marksoc]

The US is falling year by year because of this, and because socialists are winning too many victories against idiotic conservatives who put too much importance on regulating social behavior and not enough on providing true law and order EQUALLY within a truly free market. (I'm a Libertarian, but not as extreme as Ron Paul).

It is really sad that you think that some kind of "socialist" policy is guilty of what Goldman Sachs and guys like Milton Friedman did to the world. You have a lot of info wrong (the private pensions were not stolen, they were saved of oblivion right in time, probably by luck and not for the right reasons, but the funds were saved). The name of the game is called Plutonomy, and we need to win it to survive. You need to understand that the neo-con world of the 1990s is not any more in Argentina and will never come back. And anybody that has experienced an advanced welfare state knows how much it means to living a proper life (especially regarding health care).

You will see more socialist states (democratic or not) before you see an anarchist free market u(dys)topia. I hope we have the democratic kind (called Free Market Socialism, or "Economic Democracy"), it depends on us.

 

[canadien]

Toute ma vie j'ai rêvé d'avoir les fesses en l'air
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMiyxY7H2mY

Je ne la connaissais pas celle-là! Merci