Banned from entry for 8 years

[Vossos]

Normally is by e mail. But you can try.

I’ve reached out to the consulate here to advise how I can appeal. I deplaned in Rio rather than return all the way to London as I did come for a holiday and I work in office in London now which is why I can (or I guess could…) only now do short trips to Argentina. I’ll give more information once I get it

 

[Vossos]

I’ve reached out to the consulate here to advise how I can appeal. I deplaned in Rio rather than return all the way to London as I did come for a holiday and I work in office in London now which is why I can (or I guess could…) only now do short trips to Argentina. I’ll give more information once I get it

The consulate informs me that I have 15 days, so until the 16th to lodge an appeal. I guess I’ll need to try and find a lawyer

 

[hectormdelgado]

The consulate informs me that I have 15 days, so until the 16th to lodge an appeal. I guess I’ll need to try and find a lawyer

Keep us updated on this case. It will be very helpful for future travelers. Wishing you the best.

 

[Vossos]

Keep us updated on this case. It will be very helpful for future travelers. Wishing you the best.

Thanks for the wishes. I’ve got to be back in London early next week so it’s going to be a bit of a rush to try and organise what’s required at a consulate here in Rio in time - particularly as the consulate in England is only open in the morning and I have a lot of work to catch up on upon return to London.

I’ve emailed a set of lawyers provided by my consulate and will see what responses I receive tomorrow

 

[Bajo_cero2]

...and is it actually possible for a lawyer (assuming that would be required) to make the appeal in abstencia for a client who is not in Argentina?

Today is easy because the client signs the papers, scan then, send them. What makes possible to appeal here is the address in Argentina.

 

[jlynch]

Today is easy because the client signs the papers, scan then, send them. What makes possible to appeal here is the address in Argentina.

just by providing an unverified address or airbnb been sufficient proof of address? Surely something like a certificado de domicilio would be better to have.

 

[steveinbsas]

just by providing an unverified address or airbnb been sufficient proof of address? Surely something like a certificado de domicilio would be better to have.

How would it be possible for anyone who has been denied entry and "deported" to get a certificado de domicilio which, if I remember correctly, must be applied for in person at a police station in CABA or, at least where I now live, at the appropriate registro? I don't think that anyone, including a lawyer, can ask for a certificado de domicilio on behalf of another person, and, when applying for citizenship, the last time I got one, certificado must be presented within a very short time after it's issued.

Based on posts by Bajo_cero2, it looks like a lawyer can solicit a judge to override the denial of entry and/or the release (into Argentina) of a foreigner who is being detained by migraciones based on the argument that, by virtue of already "living in Argentina" (albeit while overstaying a tourist or digital nomad visa or perhaps also an expired temporary residency that for some reason could not be renewed).

The argument appears to be based on the provisions of the Argentine National Constitution and I believe that he has successfully used this tactic a number of times, but I have no idea how many times either way. I think that this is what he's doing now for two of his clients who were recently denied entry. I assume that they are both applying for citizenship. If they aren't, I don't know why they would be his clients. He has indicated that he developed this strategy, which others may since have tried to copy.

I realize that Vossos is not interested in applying for citizenship at this time, so I can only hope he will be able to find a lawyer who will have the ability to successfully represent him as an "inhabitant" of Argentina at a Federal Court, if that's what it takes to "force" migraciones to reverse the ban on entry.

 

[Vossos]

How would it be possible for anyone who has been denied entry and "deported" to get a certificado de domicilio which, if I remember correctly, must be applied for in person at a police station in CABA or, at least where I now live, at the appropriate registro? I don't think that anyone, including a lawyer, can ask for a certificado de domicilio on behalf of another person, and, when applying for citizenship, the last time I got one, certificado must be presented within a very short time after it's issued.

Based on posts by Bajo_cero2, it looks like a lawyer can solicit a judge to override the denial of entry and/or the release (into Argentina) of a foreigner who is being detained by migraciones based on the argument that, by virtue of already "living in Argentina" (albeit while overstaying a tourist or digital nomad visa or perhaps also an expired temporary residency that for some reason could not be renewed).

The argument appears to be based on the provisions of the Argentine National Constitution and I believe that he has successfully used this tactic a number of times, but I have no idea how many times either way. I think that this is what he's doing now for two of his clients who were recently denied entry. I assume that they are both applying for citizenship. If they aren't, I don't know why they would be his clients. He has indicated that he developed this strategy, which others may since have tried to copy.

I realize that Vossos is not interested in applying for citizenship at this time, so I can only hope he will be able to find a lawyer who will have the ability to successfully represent him as an "inhabitant" of Argentina at a Federal Court, if that's what it takes to "force" migraciones to reverse the ban on entry.

I wouldn’t be against applying for citizenship but would it be preferable at this time?

 

[argeiCanuck]

Assuming you could appeal and you were granted a chance to see a judge to present your case.
Also assuming there were no previous Overstay or other issues. Clean slate.

Which of the following is the easiest fastest and most promising and likely to succeed

1. Citizenship option
2. Appeal to demand TOURIST visa entry to LIVE with Argentine partner.
3. Formalize Family Union status and enter Argentina claiming Family Union visa.

 

[redlobster]

2. Appeal to demand TOURIST visa entry ...

... humbly submit an ultimatum of unconditional capitulation