Banned from entry for 8 years

argeiCanuck said:
Assuming you could appeal and you were granted a chance to see a judge to present your case.
Also assuming there were no previous Overstay or other issues. Clean slate.

Which of the following is the easiest fastest and most promising and likely to succeed

1. Citizenship option
2. Appeal to demand TOURIST visa entry to LIVE with Argentine partner.
3. Formalize Family Union status and enter Argentina claiming Family Union visa.
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If I understand correctly based on Bajocero_2's post, the appeal of the denial of entry have to be made to Argentine migraciones (either by him by email or by a lawyer in Argentina) while Vossos is waiting outside of the country

Also, if I understand correctly, based on Bajocero_2's post, a judge could grant entry based on the habeas corpus claim that Vossos is already an inhabitant of Argentina, but only an Argentine lawyer with standing at the court could do that while Vossos is waiting outside of the country.

So I wonder:

Isn't the "clean slate" already tainted by the previous overstay of a year and a half (and was the reason for the denial of entry and the deportation in the first place?

Isn't it necessary to actually be in Argentina to apply for citizenship in Argentina?

Even if it is possible for a lawyer to initiate the citizenship case in the Federal Court, and if that doesn't provide immunity from denial of entry by migraciones, wouldn't it still be necessary for the lawyer to initiate the court procedure involving habías corpus to get their client released by migraciones and enter the country?

How can having an Argentine partner in an unregistered union possibly constitute grounds for migraciones to issue a tourist visa so they can live together?
 
steveinbsas said:
... a judge could grant entry based on the habeas corpus claim that Vossos is already an inhabitant of Argentina, but only an Argentine lawyer with standing at the court could do that while Vossos is waiting outside of the country.
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A habeas corpus petition is meant to bring a detained person before a judge.
If the person is free and in another country, using it feels like a stretch
Do you ever see habeas corpus filed for people who have already been deported from the US to, say, Guatemala?
 
redlobster said:
A habeas corpus petition is meant to bring a detained person before a judge.
If the person is free and in another country, using it feels like a stretch
Do you ever see habeas corpus filed for people who have already been deported from the US to, say, Guatemala?
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I believe that Bajo_cero2 uses the habeas corpus petition for his clients who are actually being detatied by migraciones in Argentina, not someone who has departed after being denied entry, at least not until they return. He mentioned two clients who were recently denied entry: one client who arrived on a Friday and had to wait, detained at the jail at EZE until Bajo is/was able to petetion the judge and the other who was waiting out of the country until the same procedure can be repeated at EZE and they are released from detention.

PS: I look forward to being corrected if this isn't accurate.
 
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steveinbsas said:
If I understand correctly based on Bajocero_2's post, the appeal of the denial of entry have to be made to Argentine migraciones (either by him by email or by a lawyer in Argentina) while Vossos is waiting outside of the country

Also, if I understand correctly, based on Bajocero_2's post, a judge could grant entry based on the habeas corpus claim that Vossos is already an inhabitant of Argentina, but only an Argentine lawyer with standing at the court could do that while Vossos is waiting outside of the country.

So I wonder:

Isn't the "clean slate" already tainted by the previous overstay of a year and a half (and was the reason for the denial of entry and the deportation in the first place?

Isn't it necessary to actually be in Argentina to apply for citizenship in Argentina?

Even if it is possible for a lawyer to initiate the citizenship case in the Federal Court, and if that doesn't provide immunity from denial of entry by migraciones, wouldn't it still be necessary for the lawyer to initiate the court procedure involving habías corpus to get their client released by migraciones and enter the country?

How can having an Argentine partner in an unregistered union possibly constitute grounds for migraciones to issue a tourist visa so they can live together?
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Worth nothing that it would not be living together in Argentina. These days I work in London and I could only feasibly do short trips to Argentina at this point in time.

In any case. I’ve spent so much money on this trip and having to instead spend it in Rio and recently moving apartments that I doubt I can afford a lawyer anyway at this time so my fate may be sealed. The quoted fees from one lawyer that got back to me are beyond what I can muster up in the next week (£2000+)
 
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SlowWalker said:
This is extremely reasonable policy.
Many countries may not let you enter if your passport is within 6 months of expiry.
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I’d struggle to even name a country that would accept a passport that close to expiry
 
Alby said:
www.cronista.com

Oficial | Argentina prohibirá el ingreso y la salida del país a ciudadanos y extranjeros que hayan postergado este trámite con su pasaporte

La Dirección Nacional de Migraciones confirmó cuáles serán las condiciones obligatorias para poder entrar y salir del país en 2026.
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From the article:

"What happens if a foreigner exceeds the permitted time in Argentina?

The National Directorate of Migration also reminded foreign tourists that they must respect the authorized period of stay upon entering the country.

When a person exceeds that time without regularizing their immigration status, the following may apply:

fines,
migration rates,
or special exit permits.
In some cases, the foreigner will need to complete additional procedures before leaving Argentina."

Based on the original text in Spanish, and as far as I know, the "additional procedures" means getting the habilitación de salida which usually entails paying the appropriate overstay fine and leaving Argentina within ten days.

It would not surprise me if nothing is said about a ban on future entries when leaving at EZE, unless a deportation order had already been issued by migraciones after their database showed that a foreigner had overstayed their 90 day "tourist visa" and had not asked for and recieved a 90 day extension (prorroga de permanencia) at the office of migraciones.

I haven't seen any reports that migraciones has begun hunting down those who have overstayed their tourist visa, but the fact that the article was just published indicates that the current policy is getting a lot of attention. It's been almost exactly one year since the decreto was announced and went into effect.

Before the decreto of 2025 I don't remember any significant reports about the government going after foreigners living here without "legal" residency. Now it's newsworthy and getting more public attention than ever and the foreigners who are living here in violatipn of the laws may have something to worry about before they actually decide to leave on their own volition, not just when they try to return.
 
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