Best country to move to when life in Argentina becomes intolerable

[retiredbanker]

I think this thread could use a bump now.

While the grass may look greener on the other side, these days it really isn't.

 

[Quilombo]

No takers so far!

No one is going nowhere.

We must a happy bunch, but only letting steam all the time.

While I think a lot of people just like to complain, as was the case in 2019, I also think this is a big part of it too:

While the grass may look greener on the other side, these days it really isn't.

There are problems everywhere, and not all of us have the flexibility we would like to/wish we had.

I want to live in Patagonia, but I can't convince my husband to move more than an hour away from CABA due to his family, how would I convince him to move to a different country willingly? Even with all the problems we have here, I still prefer living in Argentina over the US and Canada, they are just black holes for money, but I also have a well paying job here so makes me more content/stable than most Argentines.

Now, if Argentina became a failed state my default answer would be Brazil. A few weeks ago we were having lunch and I asked my husband out of curiosity where he'd chose to live if Argentina turned in to Venezuela and he also said Brazil, and for similar reasons as mine. If I was single, I'd probably still pick Brazil, maybe Chilean Patagonia but it's very expensive, so maybe Mexico or Italy if I could figure the visa situation out.

I see lots of Argentines talk about moving to Uruguay, but it's the worst of all worlds in my opinion; it's basically an even more expensive and boring Argentina. It also has a negative population growth so while they may want immigrants, there aren't many perks to move there compared to other countries in the region.

 

[Miguel741]

Helicopters have always made a big impression on me

 

[gringoexpress]

While I think a lot of people just like to complain, as was the case in 2019, I also think this is a big part of it too:

There are problems everywhere, and not all of us have the flexibility we would like to/wish we had.

I want to live in Patagonia, but I can't convince my husband to move more than an hour away from CABA due to his family, how would I convince him to move to a different country willingly? Even with all the problems we have here, I still prefer living in Argentina over the US and Canada, they are just black holes for money, but I also have a well paying job here so makes me more content/stable than most Argentines.

Now, if Argentina became a failed state my default answer would be Brazil. A few weeks ago we were having lunch and I asked my husband out of curiosity where he'd chose to live if Argentina turned in to Venezuela and he also said Brazil, and for similar reasons as mine. If I was single, I'd probably still pick Brazil, maybe Chilean Patagonia but it's very expensive, so maybe Mexico or Italy if I could figure the visa situation out.

I see lots of Argentines talk about moving to Uruguay, but it's the worst of all worlds in my opinion; it's basically an even more expensive and boring Argentina. It also has a negative population growth so while they may want immigrants, there aren't many perks to move there compared to other countries in the region.

I'll happily trade my house in an extremely safe part of Florianopolis for a property of equal value in Buenos Aires. Good neighbors, lots of room, very safe. The locks on my car door don't work and I've accidentally left money on the dashboard and it's been there when I got back. I'm not down with the direction the country is going, specifically, with criminalizing individual health decisions and talking about the dangers of the vax, so I'm out. Brazil has become a communist dictatorship, and that isn't for me.

 

[SinPulgas]

I'll happily trade my house in an extremely safe part of Florianopolis for a property of equal value in Buenos Aires. Good neighbors, lots of room, very safe. The locks on my car door don't work and I've accidentally left money on the dashboard and it's been there when I got back. I'm not down with the direction the country is going, specifically, with criminalizing individual health decisions and talking about the dangers of the vax, so I'm out. Brazil has become a communist dictatorship, and that isn't for me.

So:

Best country to move to when life in Argentina Brazil becomes intolerable​

Argentina

 

[mc kenna]

I did a pretty light overview on Paraguay not long ago, apparently its pretty stable and affordable but you must enjoy the heat lol
Anyone with first hand experiences on Paraguay?

 

[Musicman]

I like to ask the members which country they would move to in South America if life becomes intolerable in Argentina like it has for Venezuelans.
My choice by far is Peru for numerous reasons including stability. ease of settling in . Friendly people. Reasonably safe. and a strong reliable economy.

I would choose a second tier city like Arequipa or Cusco as excellent choices for expats .

I like to hear your thoughts on other options thank you

Consider other options and perhaps come to the South of Spain where many Latin American and other expats call it home. Its very cosmopolitan, healthcare is excellent, living costs are low, it has a stable currency, weather is great and its very safe.

It has a Latin American vibe and the food is excellent........anything you want from all over the world. Malaga, in the south is a city on the rise and recently voted one of the best in the world in which to live while Marbella is considered the Miami of Europe without the high cost of living. West of Marbella is Sotogrande with great Polo tournaments in the summer and with many Argentineans competing there. A short drive inland you have the historical and beautiful cities of Seville, Cordoba and Granada to visit and further West is the oldest city in Europe, Cadiz and its beautiful beaches. Tangier in Morrocco is a 30 min ferry ride where you can explore the amazing history and culture of that country

With an abundance of low cost flights you can also visit many cosmopolitan european cities in a short time for a very low price (48 euros to travel london for example). Madrid is a 2.5 hour train ride away with tickets as low as 25 euros sometimes. Best place in the world in which to live. Come visit the International Peoples Fair in Fuengirola in May and check out the diversity and culture here. https://www.fipfuengirola.com/en/

More and more Americans moving here too which is great to see.

 

[Aztangogirl]

I am here to stay. I have nothing to go back to in the States. Even if I did, the States are far worse than here. Argentina is my home. I will roll with the punches.

 

[TWB103]

Consider other options and perhaps come to the South of Spain where many Latin American and other expats call it home. Its very cosmopolitan, healthcare is excellent, living costs are low, it has a stable currency, weather is great and its very safe.

It has a Latin American vibe and the food is excellent........anything you want from all over the world. Malaga, in the south is a city on the rise and recently voted one of the best in the world in which to live while Marbella is considered the Miami of Europe without the high cost of living. West of Marbella is Sotogrande with great Polo tournaments in the summer and with many Argentineans competing there. A short drive inland you have the historical and beautiful cities of Seville, Cordoba and Granada to visit and further West is the oldest city in Europe, Cadiz and its beautiful beaches. Tangier in Morrocco is a 30 min ferry ride where you can explore the amazing history and culture of that country

With an abundance of low cost flights you can also visit many cosmopolitan european cities in a short time for a very low price (48 euros to travel london for example). Madrid is a 2.5 hour train ride away with tickets as low as 25 euros sometimes. Best place in the world in which to live. Come visit the International Peoples Fair in Fuengirola in May and check out the diversity and culture here. https://www.fipfuengirola.com/en/

More and more Americans moving here too which is great to see.

From the point of view of a rich expat.

Unfortunately Malaga is fast becoming the new Barcelona.

Life not so good for Spanish who,in their 30s, are still living with their parents in cramped apartments and can't afford to have kids priced out of buying property thanks to rich immigrants/retirees and uncontrolled immigration.

 

[Musicman]

From the point of view of a rich expat.

Unfortunately Malaga is fast becoming the new Barcelona.

Life not so good for Spanish who,in their 30s, are still living with their parents in cramped apartments and can't afford to have kids priced out of buying property thanks to rich immigrants/retirees and uncontrolled immigration.

I think this is what may happen with Argentina and Buenos Aires if Milei is successful with his free market policies. In Spain umemployment is high and salaries are low relative to other EU countries thanks to restrictive socialist economic policies.