Brexit Wtf!

ben

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It appears to be increasingly possible and even likely that Brexit will never actually take place. The entire basis on which the 'leave' campaign won the vote has quickly been revealed to be false. Only a few days after the vote, and not one of the Brexiters is willing to stand over the claim that £350 million per day will be freed up to spend on the National Health Service, etc... They're now talking openly accepting that free trade means free movement of people, and so the central xenophobic anti-immigration plank of their campaign has vanished.

Meanwhile, with investment and funding on hold for at least two years, the pressure from business and the economy is mounting and will only grow. Tax rises and spending cuts are on the way.

Nobody has dared to activate Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty to formally start the process because it effectively means walking the plank.

It's quite possible another referendum will be called to approve a pointless, fudged, "settlement" which doesn't satisfy anybody, and it will be defeated. And all this nonsense will be over.
Johnson out of the running for PM. As the person who in theory stood to gain the most politically from the situation, gotta raise some eyebrows...

This is looking more every day like a dare that nobody counted on winning. At all.
 

EJLarson

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Johnson out of the running for PM. As the person who in theory stood to gain the most politically from the situation, gotta raise some eyebrows...

This is looking more every day like a dare that nobody counted on winning. At all.
No one can know for sure, but there were several commentators who said that Johnson was finished the moment that Cameron willed Article 50 to his successor. The reasoning goes that Johnson, as PM, couldn't survive either scenario: invoking 50 after the electorate had seen that it was a bad idea, or not invoking it and enraging his base supporters on the Leave side.

Might be that he saw the same thing - plus Gove's defection.
 

RodalfoWalsh

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"These politicians assume that the dog will never catch the car and they will have the best of all worlds — opposing something unpopular but not having to deal with the implications of the public actually voting to get rid of it. But they so dumb down the debate with lies, fear-mongering and misdirection, and with only a simple majority required to win, that the leave-the-E.U. crowd carries the day by a small margin. Presto: the dog catches the car. And, of course, it has no idea now what to do with this car. There is no plan. There is just barking."
http://goo.gl/j9vqat
 

Somewhereinba

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I read the whole thing - my impression the whole time was these two guys want Europe to be a single state that shares everything. I stand by my original thoughts - The majority in the UK want to make their own decisions and not be influenced by another countries members in Brussels. They do not want to integrate into Europe and lose their identity - this is a reasonable assessment. How would Argentines feel if Brazil tried to merge their culture with them and decide on Argentine matters? There has to be a line where cooperation crosses too far and begins to exert influence.
 

Irelander

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I read the whole thing - my impression the whole time was these two guys want Europe to be a single state that shares everything. I stand by my original thoughts - The majority in the UK want to make their own decisions and not be influenced by another countries members in Brussels. They do not want to integrate into Europe and lose their identity - this is a reasonable assessment. How would Argentines feel if Brazil tried to merge their culture with them and decide on Argentine matters? There has to be a line where cooperation crosses too far and begins to exert influence.
By that logic, why should Texans be content to merge their culture with a massive superstate called the 'United States'? Texans, remember the Alamo! Take your country back! No to immigration from smelly people from Arizona! Become a rich oil state, trading on its own terms, and use the money for Texans only! etc. etc.
 

thorsten

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I read the whole thing - my impression the whole time was these two guys want Europe to be a single state that shares everything.
Despite being totally unrealistic - at least for the foreseeable future - even if those two guys want a single state doesn't change the fact that the article is utter bullshit as it sells a thought/vision of 2 persons as a fact. Any newspaper with at least a mediocre standard of journalism wouldn't even publish it as an opinion piece, but we are talking about The Sun, so...
 

Somewhereinba

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By that logic, why should Texans be content to merge their culture with a massive superstate called the 'United States'? Texans, remember the Alamo! Take your country back! No to immigration from smelly people from Arizona! Become a rich oil state, trading on its own terms, and use the money for Texans only! etc. etc.
Imagine how much fun all the Saudis would have at an Argentine asado with pig intestines for dinner !!
 
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