Can Anyone Possibly Think This Is A Good Idea?

[camberiu]

Pretty sure HMS invincible was never sunk.

They missed, and sunk the Atlantic Conveyor instead.

 

[camberiu]

And we agree again.
The point is that after the war there was a consensus ammong all the political factions regarding that it was a fantasy to believe that we belong to the western christian world and that we should look for real allies.
Before only the left though so.

Well, not quite. Argentina sent ARA Hercules to participate in the first gulf war back in 1991. It later tried to apply to NATO membership.

 

[Bajo_cero2]

but it's even tougher to agree with Maggie Thatcher, I suspect...

She is a hero. Thanks to her the dictators lost its power and finished in Jail. In those days Argentina was Noth Korea.

 

[Bajo_cero2]

Well, not quite. Argentina sent ARA Hercules to participate in the first gulf war back in 1991. It later tried to apply to NATO membership.

Menem you mean.

 

[camberiu]

Menem you mean.

Menem you mean.

You meant your two term democratically elected president and then senator does not count? He did not represent Argentina? He was some rogue element who for 10 years acted completely against the public opinion of the Argentine people?

Menem did it. Got it.

 

[camberiu]

In those days Argentina was Noth Korea.

I'd would not go nearly as far. But it was a particularly brutal dictatorship, even by South American standards, which is saying something.

 

[ajoknoblauch]

She is a hero. Thanks to her the dictators lost its power and finished in Jail. In those days Argentina was Noth Korea.

You're the first Argentine I've ever seen speak or write such a thing, and I'd like to hear the current government say so. I personally disliked her as intensely as I disliked Reagan - worst president of my lifetime except for Shrub - but I would agree she did the right thing.

The North Korea comparison is a bit over the top, though. Argentine milicos never exercised the total control that the Kim dynasty has.

 

[camberiu]

That, however, did not stop the milicos from being one of the Soviet Union's main trading partners. Only in Reaganite fantasies was Argentina part of any coalition v. communism.

So what? Until 1980, the USSR was the United States largest foreign buyer of grains. I suggest you read up on Operation Charly.

 

[camberiu]

An Argentine victory would have had far more serious consequences for Argentina - an institutionalized military terror state - and Argentina's neighbors. You could almost have guaranteed a shooting war with Chile.

That would probably have triggered what the Brazilian military called "War Scenario Delta". That would not have been good. At all.

 

[ajoknoblauch]

That would probably have triggered what the Brazilian military called "War Scenario Delta". That would not have been good. At all.

It would have been bad for everybody.