Christina Kirchners speech is a inspiration

[AlexfromLA]

I don't completely disagree with you regarding the Kirchner's. I don't personally back them. What I will say is when South America needed unity, Argentina was there and that had alot to do with the Kirchner's. I respect them for that and their stance against the WB and IMF and in many cases the USA. I respect their stance against many of the countries traditional economic and political elite. I respect that they were willing to stand side by side with Evo Morales when the hounds of hell were knocking on his door.

South America has turned a corner and like it or not the Kirchner's were a part of that. You might have forgotten that, but history won't.

 

[Lucas]

It's nice to see at last a little of common sense and sanity prevail, and yes they are not quite perfect by any means but they are the best we had in this country for a long, long time since Hipólito Yrigoyen (Radical) and Juan Domingo Perón (Justicialist).

 

[SaraSara]

South America has turned a corner and like it or not the Kirchner's were a part of that. You might have forgotten that, but history won't.

In my view, they just happened to be in the right place at the right time, and ran with the herd. Most of South America was veering left, with Correa in Ecuador, Alan Garcia in Peru, Evo Morales in Bolivia, Lula in Brazil, Bachelet in Chile, and Tabare Vazquez in Uruguay.

I've left Chavez out because I don't consider him a true leftist but an opportunist dictator masquerading as one.

 

[AlexfromLA]

Alan Garcia and Alvaro Uribe were running with the herd ? No they weren't they are completely right wing. They were the only two leaders who signed FTA's with the US, thereby shunning solidarity with the rest of South America and it's people ( And again Garcia wasn't elected until mid 2006, yes thats almost three years into Kirchner's four year term, lol ).

If you want to get specific, half of the people you mentioned weren't even in office when Nestor was elected. Actually it was because of the climate of South American integration and unity that Chavez, Lula and Kirchner cultivated and specifically Argentina's foreign policy shift from " Automatic Alignment " with the United States to one of stronger ties within South America and Mercosur that allowed for people like Evo, Bachelet, Tabare, Lugo, and Correa to be elected.

Argentina's political shift and most importantly, it's foreign policy shift that I just outlined happened prior to 2005. This is BEFORE all these left wing leaders were elected.

The easy road would have been to tow the line, both within the country and without. Kirchner did not do that. He stood up against many injustices when it was still dangerous and unpopular to do so, and that gave South Americans courage. I for one am greatful for that.

 

[pauper]

Thats odd, there were people claiming they were Montonero terrorists in their younger years on these pages, now they are fake leftists. Someone else here is pointing out that socialists hate her too, of course they do, go and read a book on Peron this is just basic history. Opinions flow forth so easily when it comes to discussing the current administration but I guess for most informed opinions are just a bit too much to ask for (and I don't mean just on this forum).

 

[SaraSara]

In 2006 Alan Garcia stood for the APRA, a center-left party. His opponent was Lourdes Garcia, beloved of the conservatives.

 

[SaraSara]

I'm sure you are right. Signing off now.

 

[gouchobob]

In 2006 Alan Garcia stood for the APRA, a center-left party. His opponent was Lourdes Garcia, beloved of the conservatives.

Actually this was the second time Garcia was elected, first time was back in the 80's, he was very far left back then and his presidency was a complete disaster. His main opponent last time wasn't Lourdes Gracia(it's Lourdes Flores), but a guy by the name of Humala, whom he defeated in the run-off by 52-48% or so. Humala was another of Hugo's boys whom he send bags of cash to like the K's here.

All of these lefties running these countries with the exception of Lula will leave their countries and people poorer and worst off in the end. The example people should be following is Chile. Stronger democratic institutions leads to long term economic and social advancement. These cult's of personality, like chavez, evo, correa, and the K's always end badly.

 

[cabrera]

Actually this was the second time Garcia was elected, first time was back in the 80's, he was very far left back then and his presidency was a complete disaster. His main opponent last time wasn't Lourdes Gracia(it's Lourdes Flores), but a guy by the name of Humala, whom he defeated in the run-off by 52-48% or so. Humala was another of Hugo's boys whom he send bags of cash to like the K's here.

All of these lefties running these countries with the exception of Lula will leave their countries and people poorer and worst off in the end. The example people should be following is Chile. Stronger democratic institutions leads to long term economic and social advancement. These cult's of personality, like chavez, evo, correa, and the K's always end badly.

You are a thug dictator supporting people like Pinera from Chile who was a supporter of Pinochet who killed thousands of his people but of course the elite got richer so he was good. Put your nose elsewhere as most people in latin America do not want your fascist views .

 

[gouchobob]

You are a thug dictator supporting people like Pinera from Chile who was a supporter of Pinochet who killed thousands of his people but of course the elite got richer so he was good. Put your nose elsewhere as most people in latin America do not want your fascist views .

Interesting, I'm called a thug dictator and fascist for suggesting that what's needed here is stronger democratic institutions, thought you could come up with at least one examples of how the people you admire have made things better.