Glad to have found this forum. I've been enjoying the posts in this thread and
the older one. Thanks to
@Bajo_cero2,
@dsp27, and
@steveinbsas for all your insight on the subject.
In a few weeks, I'll be having a child outside the country with a native-born Argentine woman. I saw what I'd need to provide for citizenship is
much simpler for the parent of a child who'd be considered native-born (since the distinction from 'por opción' was removed) compared to when I analysed Argentina ~15 years ago. Nonetheless, I would like clarification on the requirements, where to apply, and the ETA.
First, I'm not interested in
any form of residency in Argentina. The only one I'd qualify for is
PR anyway. I'd consider that if it were the only way and the turnaround time from filing for PR to receiving the carta de ciudadanía were less than six months.
Regarding venue, we're legal residents of Paraguay, so it would be more convenient to sort this in Clorinda or the city of Formosa if that weren't possible. I did the logistics for the kid's registration, DNI, and passport in Clorinda already. From
this site, it says, 'Juzgado Nacional en lo Civil y Comercial Federal más cercano a tu domicilio', but
PNJ shows listings for CABA only, unless I'm missing something. Where could this be done in the Formosa province, because
this one doesn't seem correct?
If it's not feasible to do it in Clorinda/Formosa (they won't respond to my emails for the documentation that's necessary, the requirements are too much of a pain, the judges are stricter, or it takes too long), her parents live in Villa Madero, PBA. We could do the birth registration there instead, visit them, and I could submit my application after that's done. Same question for where to submit the file in PBA.
Second, I've seen
this list of requirements from CABA, but it has a DNI/cédula although I've read
@Bajo_cero2's posts saying he's argued successfully for a passport copy only. I am used to doing these processes myself, so I don't want to have to resort to a lawyer to submit the application. I understand judges can be inconsistent and would like to avoid wasting time fighting an uphill battle based on my goals. From what I've synthesised, I need the following:
- birth certificate, apostilled, and translated;
- traductor público nacional y legalizada por el Colegio de Traductores;
- I have an apostilled US birth certificate from ~2013. Ours don't expire and apostilles don't either. Are they going to break balls about the date? I would rather not order another one unnecessarily;
- simple passport photo page copy;
- I won't have a DNI/CDI before applying;
- certificado de antecedentes (AR);
- copy of kid's birth certificate (AR);
- certificado de domicilio [?];
- is it necessary when applying as a parent of an Argentine?
- is some certificate from DGM required in this scenario too?
After having done her residency in Paraguay, getting the birth certificate and police report (plus the apostilles - 20 working days for an electronic document) was a complete nightmare of app installs, website registrations, linking bank accounts, verifications, payments, contacting support staff when nothing was moving, etc. I've done a lot of Latin American bureaucracy, but that took the cake. However, I'm seeing appointments can be requested and payments done in person now post-COVID.
Mostly, I've decided to request citizenship in Argentina, because the costs are
low for another passport. Based on my case, about how long would it take from submission to getting the Carta de Ciudadanía? Any clarifications and advice would be appreciated greatly.
