Conspiracy Theory Reloaded

[citygirl]

I have a genuine question - do you really think someone(s) went into the building and executed a demolition 10 hours after the towers had fallen while fires were burning uncontrollably, there was debris everywhere and a million different law enforcement agencies trying to gain control of the situation and the area on lockdown. I just truly don't understand what the whole conspiracy theory is trying to say.

 

[internationalguy]

I don't confirm or deny the conspiracy theory regarding building 7.

If anything, it claims that the government, or whoever "really" planned the whole operation on 9/11 were the ones who demolished building 7 with a standard controlled demolition setup that would have been put there before all hell broke lose hours earlier. For people who believe this saying that the area was on lockdown doesn't mean anything because it would have been the people who were in control who decided to demolish the building anyway.

 

[Don Alberto]

I wish people would stop using the stupid American date system.

yyyy-mm-dd is too simple as in 2014-03-13. Any normal person mentions the less important before the more important.

The American date system is no more stupid than saying e.g. 80 dollars and 50 cent and 200 dollars instead of the cumbersome 289.50 dollars.

 

[Caliexpat]

I just truly don't understand what the whole conspiracy theory is trying to say.

The so called "conspiracy theory" is trying to say that the official version of events is wrong or incomplete. One theory for the building being demolished was to destroy records of some sort. The Secret Service, CIA, FBI, IRS, SEC, Dept. of Defense among others, all had offices in the building. The CIA's office apparently was an undercover location:

A NATION CHALLENGED: THE INTELLIGENCE AGENCY; Secret C.I.A. Site in New York Was Destroyed on Sept. 11
http://www.nytimes.c...-destroyed.html

The SEC reported that many existing cases of corporate fraud were simply scrapped and all records destroyed. The day before the attack, Donald Rumsfeld announced that the Pentagon had misplaced $2.3 trillion. Backup records related to this were supposedly stored in Building 7. It wouldn't be the first time that something was purposefully destroyed in order to cover something up.

The War on Waste
http://www.cbsnews.c...e-war-on-waste/

do you really think someone(s) went into the building and executed a demolition 10 hours after the towers had fallen while fires were burning uncontrollably, there was debris everywhere and a million different law enforcement agencies trying to gain control of the situation and the area on lockdown.

No, I doubt it would have occurred this way. The building would have been wired and ready well in advance of the attack. Is it really that far fetched to think that the US govt. would lie to the public? This is the same govt. that lied about weapons of mass destruction.

It's also not unprecedented that the govt. wouldn't utilize or attempt to utilize a false flag attack in order to advance another agenda that would never fly under normal circumstances.

Operation Northwoods
http://en.wikipedia....tion_Northwoods

"Operation Northwoods was a series of false flag proposals that originated within the Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) of the United States government in 1962. The proposals, which called for the Central Intelligence Agency(CIA), or other operatives, to commit acts of terrorism in US cities and elsewhere, were rejected by the Kennedy administration.

At the time of the proposal, Cuba had recently become communist under Fidel Castro. The operation proposed creating public support for a war against Cuba by blaming it for terrorist acts.[3] To this end, Operation Northwoods proposals recommended hijackings and bombings followed by the introduction of phony evidence that would implicate the Cuban government."

 

[citygirl]

So your theory is that the US gov't was behind the 9/11 attacks. That is where the conversation ends for me.

 

[GS_Dirtboy]

Yes, the US government was completely behind the 911 attacks. It was planned years in advance. The movie set for which the Apollo moon "landings" were filmed (by none other than Martin Scorsese) was actually in the basement of Building 7. It was hidden behind a fake parking garage.

Steven Segal knew about it (he was a CIA operative) and threatened to go public with the information because he needs money (he can't get any acting gigs). He was bought off by super black ops agents (not even the President knows they exist). They bought him a beach house in Malibu and some plastic surgery.

Martin Scorsese would never say anything. He was sworn to secrecy in return for having his films continually nominated for Oscars.

 

[Jaredberryman]

It's been my experience that many or even most people in Latin America will believe a conspiracy theory if it is anti-U.S. or makes the U.S. look bad. When I lived in Mexico, I found that most people believe the apollo moon landing did not actually happen, but that it was a plot by the U.S. government. Fortunately, I think Portenos are far less gullible.

 

[Dublin2BuenosAires]

Conspiracy theory copy and paste wars!


Think like and individual!?....Here have some stuff I read on a website which confirms my worldview, ctrl c, ctrl p. Tis the very death of independent though and ideas, led down the garden path by confirmation bias.

 

[Caliexpat]

So your theory is that the US gov't was behind the 9/11 attacks. That is where the conversation ends for me.

No, I didn't say that but doesn't mean they wouldn't lie or withhold information. It sounds like for you the issue is how much do you trust your govt. That's a personal decision that each person needs to make.

 

[Matiasba]

It is sooooooo important for the US the Irak and Afghanistan wars, strategically, geopolitically, military, they are sooo important for the US, than 10 years later they are still there, they didnt leave! Saddam is dead, Osama is dead there were no weapons.... but they are still there.

It is important to me the way the US sold these wars to its citizens. They needed some consensus you know? they needed something beyond politics, something big, some reason that did not require any explanation. The war on terror must have been something emotional to every american citizen, not something reasonable, they appealed to the emotions, not to the reason, thats why these wars are out of discussions, or at least they were in the beginning. Little to no one opposed to the wars in the beginning, thats because the propaganda, thats because how the government sold the wars to its citizens. Today they are more questionable, but at that time, they did arrive to that consensus, to that homogenious opinion that they must go to war.


And it had to be like hollywood, with big explosions in everyones face. It was sooooo used the 9/11 after. Like for 10 years, it was used to justify wars, budget to the defense department. patriot act, more and more power to the military industrial complex, the same that killed Kennedy, the same that governs the US, and the world, since the end of WWII.