COVID: Argentina in sixth place

[Bajo_cero2]

20 minute rapid COVID tests, imported ventilators, medicinal technology and drugs are in USD. Argentina is and was behind the times on a lot of these things - while it waits to imitate and develop it locally, more people get sick and die than they need to.

You are missinformed. Ventilators are made in Argentina. The rapid tests too. The same we can says about most pf the drugs.

 

[antipodean]

You are missinformed. Ventilators are made in Argentina. The rapid tests too. The same we can says about most pf the drugs.

Argentina has enough rapid tests and IS using them? I don’t know anyone who has had a 20 minute test here, where can we get one?
And what were the special flights to China and elsewhere all about and all the photos infront of imported ventilators during the first months when national production was being ramped up? They paid China and others in Pesos?

 

[Bajo_cero2]

Argentina has enough rapid tests and IS using them? I don’t know anyone who has had a 20 minute test here, where can we get one?
And what were the special flights to China and elsewhere all about and all the photos infront of imported ventilators during the first months when national production was being ramped up? They paid China and others in Pesos?

The commerce with China is in Yuans so, Argentina pays in soy:

BCRA habilita operaciones con yuan para comercio exterior y contratos a futuro

El Banco Central habilitó ciertas operaciones con la moneda china, aunque aclaró que, por el momento, no se activará el swap firmado con la potencia asiática.

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Chinese ventilators were a fake news. There are 2 local factories of ventilators that works 24/7 since March:

Cómo trabajan contra reloj las fábricas argentinas de respiradores artificiales

Las empresas cordobesas Leistung y Tecmé decidieron cancelar las exportaciones y triplicar su producción para abastecer solo al mercado local. El Gobierno busca contar con 1.500 dispositivos.

www.perfil.com

And there is a new one:

Coronavirus en la Argentina: Mirgor producirá 1000 respiradores para el Ministerio de Salud

La empresa de Nicolás Caputo con planta en Tierra del Fuego se reconvirtió. Firmó un contrato bajo la emergencia sanitaria con la compañía cordobesa Leistung

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Foreign rapid test were a donation from China in March. Local rapid test are better and they seems to look for producing 0ne million per month:

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Overproduction is exported:

Argentina ya exporta a otras partes del mundo test para detectar Covid-19

Luego de garantizar la producción para cubrir de modo prioritario la demanda del sistema público de salud y los mercados de Argentina, el test de desarrollo nac...

www.laarena.com.ar

The local purchase of Covid test is monopolized by the State.

Argentina has a generic medications law. This means that we can produce any drug without paying royalties.

There are many projects going on, my sister´s sea urchin´s antiviral for Covid-19 was approved by Anmat as medication last week.
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[antipodean]

Interesting. Didn't the province of BA buy a lot of ventilators with USD? Also how does Argentina pay Chinese companies in soy? Of all the business I have done in China before they just want cash...

Humanitarian flight brings medical supplies to Argentina from China

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The question still stands for why Argentina tests far less than other countries if it has such an abundance of capabilities put to good use (and as a result, has far more cases and an increasing death toll...) Local is, unfortunately, not always better.

 

[Bajo_cero2]

Interesting. Didn't the province of BA buy a lot of ventilators with USD? Also how does Argentina pay Chinese companies in soy? Of all the business I have done in China before they just want cash...

Humanitarian flight brings medical supplies to Argentina from China

news.cgtn.com

The question still stands for why Argentina tests far less than other countries if it has such an abundance of capabilities put to good use (and as a result, has far more cases and an increasing death toll...) Local is, unfortunately, not always better.

You quoted a fake news.

Kicillof no compró respiradores a China sino insumos médicos

En un posteo de Facebook que se hizo viral se afirma que el gobernador Axel Kicillof dijo que la Provincia de Buenos Aires compraría respiradores a China por 10 millones de dólares; que China había donado respiradores a ese distrito, y que los respiradores fueron comprados a una fábrica ubicada...

www.google.com.ar

The commerce with China is in Yuans. We do not need usd, we need soy among other commodities that are paid in Yuans that we spend in Chinese commodities.

"ArgenChina": por qué China desplazó a Brasil como el mayor socio comercial de Argentina - BBC News Mundo

El acercamiento entre China y Argentina incluye planes para un observatorio espacial chino en la Patagonia, una nueva central nuclear y la producción a gran escala en territorio argentino de carne porcina para el mercado chino.

www.google.com.ar

I do not see any lack of test.

You complain because politicians / virologist disagree with you on how to use those tests.

 

[antipodean]

You quoted a fake news.

Kicillof no compró respiradores a China sino insumos médicos

En un posteo de Facebook que se hizo viral se afirma que el gobernador Axel Kicillof dijo que la Provincia de Buenos Aires compraría respiradores a China por 10 millones de dólares; que China había donado respiradores a ese distrito, y que los respiradores fueron comprados a una fábrica ubicada...

www.google.com.ar

The commerce with China is in Yuans. We do not need usd, we need soy among other commodities that are paid in Yuans that we spend in Chinese commodities.

"ArgenChina": por qué China desplazó a Brasil como el mayor socio comercial de Argentina - BBC News Mundo

El acercamiento entre China y Argentina incluye planes para un observatorio espacial chino en la Patagonia, una nueva central nuclear y la producción a gran escala en territorio argentino de carne porcina para el mercado chino.

www.google.com.ar

I do not see any lack of test.

You complain because politicians / virologist disagree with you on how to use those tests.

The “fake news” I quoted is from a Chinese government news outlet. Which clearly states purchased medical supplies. If not ventilators, then other medical supplies that Argentina doesn’t have enough of. Or China has an agenda to push fake news against Argentina too?

The WHO say thay positivity rates should be 5% of lower. Argentina is 40+%. It’s not me disagreeing, but of course Argentina knows best - that’s exactly how it ended up being sixth worst in the world. The WHO also recently revised its advice to say that prolonged lockdowns are not the key or effective. Again, Argentina knows best?

 

[gracielle]

14 October 2020
Coronavirus: they denounce that the Government turns its back on the rapid diagnostic tests of the Conicet

Coronavirus: denuncian que el Gobierno les da la espalda a los test de diagnóstico rápido del Conicet

Coronavirus: denuncian que el Gobierno les da la espalda a los test de diagnóstico rápido del Conicet

www.lanacion.com.ar

This is how President Alberto Fernández presented, on May 15, the rapid diagnosis Neokit developed by Conicet, the National Agency for the Promotion of Research, Technological Development and Innovation, and scientists from the Institute of Science and Technology Dr. César Milstein (Conicet - Pablo Cassará Foundation).
That day, while the President recalled "those who always underestimated and did not value the work of our scientists," there was nothing to suggest that five months later the Ministry of Health of the Nation would bid and award, along with the launch of the Federal Plan Detectar, a purchase of 375,000 rapid tests from Abbot Laboratories, for a value of US$1.9M dollars, about AR$158.7M, leaving aside the tests of national production....
...."The Milstein Institute has the necessary capacity to produce 20,000 reactions per day," Carolina Carrillo, a researcher at Conicet, tells LA NACION. And she adds: "Today there is a lot of interest in neighboring countries for the Neokit produced in Argentina."
In the Milstein Institute they confirm that "the demand for purchasing those tests was on the side of the provinces. The city of Buenos Aires, Neuquén and recently the province of Buenos Aires bought from us, but not the national Ministry of Health," says Jorge Cassará, director of the Cassará Laboratory.....
According to Provision 471, where the award of the purchase to Abbott Laboratories is reported, six offers were rejected. Among them that of the national Neokit, of the public-private consortium developed between Conicet and the Cassará laboratory. The reasons indicate "that they did not comply with what is required in the technical specifications."
Despite this, Deputy Graciela Ocaña objected and denounced the tender carried out by the Ministry of Health. "This tender was tailored to Abbott Laboratories," she tells LA NACION. And she details: "Basically because the Abbott prospectus coincides with the technical details that the Ministry of Health requires for the purchase."....
Ocaña sent a letter to the representation of the World Bank in Argentina, an organization that lent that money to the country for the purchase of supplies used in the fight against Covid-19. "What we question is that tender called by the Ministry of Health because It seems to us that it is simulated and violates the transparency norms ", and adds:" It is being bought from an international laboratory with dollars loaned by the World Bank, which we Argentines will have to return, and it is not bought from local laboratories. "....

Coronavirus: denuncian que el Gobierno les da la espalda a los test de diagnóstico rápido del Conicet

Coronavirus: denuncian que el Gobierno les da la espalda a los test de diagnóstico rápido del Conicet

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6 October 2020

The White House Bet on Abbott’s Rapid Tests. It Didn’t Work Out. (Published 2020)

Federal officials relied too heavily on the tests, then took the results for granted, experts say.

www.nytimes.com

....Abbott’s rapid coronavirus tests, called the ID NOW and BinaxNOW, are speedy, portable and easy to operate, delivering results in minutes. But the convenience comes at a cost: The products are less accurate than laboratory tests that use a technique called polymerase chain reaction, or P.C.R., and they more frequently miss infections or mistakenly designate healthy people as infected, as happened to Gov. Mike DeWine of Ohio in August....

 

[Alpinista]

You quoted a fake news.

Kicillof no compró respiradores a China sino insumos médicos

En un posteo de Facebook que se hizo viral se afirma que el gobernador Axel Kicillof dijo que la Provincia de Buenos Aires compraría respiradores a China por 10 millones de dólares; que China había donado respiradores a ese distrito, y que los respiradores fueron comprados a una fábrica ubicada...

www.google.com.ar

The commerce with China is in Yuans. We do not need usd, we need soy among other commodities that are paid in Yuans that we spend in Chinese commodities.

"ArgenChina": por qué China desplazó a Brasil como el mayor socio comercial de Argentina - BBC News Mundo

El acercamiento entre China y Argentina incluye planes para un observatorio espacial chino en la Patagonia, una nueva central nuclear y la producción a gran escala en territorio argentino de carne porcina para el mercado chino.

www.google.com.ar

I do not see any lack of test.

You complain because politicians / virologist disagree with you on how to use those tests.

There is a clear lack of tests. Here are the 15 countries with most cases. Only Mexico did less tests:



You can't compare a country like Argentina with USA or Russia, but certainly with Chile and Brazil, both of which did far more tests.

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Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...

www.worldometers.info

 

[Alpinista]

Now finally we know why did had the world's longest, most dysfunctional lockdown! The answer: it has five letters and starts with "M". Anyone?

 

[jblaze5779]

I've had two rapid tests since I've been here for whoever was wondering. It seems to be the secondary main control for most companies.