Crime in BsAs - anyone?

In Buenos Aíres, have you personally been the victim of:

  • Pickpocketing

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Burglary

    Votes: 54 43.9%

  • Theft

    Votes: 14 11.4%

  • Armed robbery

    Votes: 45 36.6%

  • Robbery, no arms visible, threats/intimidation only

    Votes: 26 21.1%

  • Stabbing

    Votes: 23 18.7%

  • Shooting

    Votes: 1 0.8%

  • Other crime

    Votes: 1 0.8%

  • I have not personally been a victim of a crime in BsAs

    Votes: 28 22.8%
  • Total voters
    123
As of 2011.05.07 crime in BsAs looks like this:

Respondents = 188

Crime .................. Number Percentage
Pockets picked ............ 45 ...... 24.0
Burglary .................. 11 ....... 5.9
Theft, other .............. 37 ...... 19.7
Robbery, other ............ 19 .......10.1

Armed robbery ............. 17 ....... 9.0
Stabbed .................... 1 ....... 0.5
Shot ....................... 1 ....... 0.5

Other crimes .............. 23 ...... 12.2

The percentage sums up to more than 100 because we are counting number of crimes, not number of victims.

The number of dangerous crimes are 19, or 10.1 percent.

Number non-victims: 94 ...... 50.0 percent.
Number victims: ... 94 ...... 50.0 percent.

Number of crimes .. 154
Crimes per victim ... 1.6
 
John.St said:
As of 2011.05.07 crime in BsAs looks like this:

Respondents = 188

Crime .................. Number Percentage
Pockets picked ............ 45 ...... 24.0
Burglary .................. 11 ....... 5.9
Theft, other .............. 37 ...... 19.7
Robbery, other ............ 19 .......10.1

Armed robbery ............. 17 ....... 9.0
Stabbed .................... 1 ....... 0.5
Shot ....................... 1 ....... 0.5

Other crimes .............. 23 ...... 12.2

The percentage sums up to more than 100 because we are counting number of crimes, not number of victims.

The number of dangerous crimes are 19, or 10.1 percent.

Number non-victims: 94 ...... 50.0 percent.
Number victims: ... 94 ...... 50.0 percent.

Number of crimes .. 154
Crimes per victim ... 1.6
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Interesting...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States
 
As of 2011.05.15 crime in BsAs looks like this:

Respondents = 192

Crime .................. Number Percentage
Pockets picked ............ 45 ...... 23.6
Burglary .................. 11 ....... 5.8
Theft, other .............. 37 ...... 19.4
Robbery, other ............ 19 .......10.0

Armed robbery ............. 17 ....... 8.9
Stabbed .................... 1 ....... 0.5
Shot ....................... 1 ....... 0.5

Other crimes .............. 23 ...... 12.0

The percentage sums up to more than 100 because we are counting number of crimes, not number of victims.

Number of crimes .. 154
Crimes per victim ... 1.6

Number of dangerous crimes: 19 or 12.3 percent.

Number non-victims: 98 ...... 51.0 percent.
Number victims: ...... 94 ...... 49.0 percent.

The figures have been very stable since February, very close to 50/50 for victims and non-victims.

If you respond to the poll, make sure you have read the definitions in the first post before you add anything: http://baexpats.org/expat-life/5805-crime-bsas-anyone.html#post34973
 
I lived in BsAs for 1 year.. was not really victim of "crime"...except for the few fake bank notes i got.. that being said.... I was always vigilant to not show my phone, cameras etc...
On baexpats... several people in the past have jumped on the opportunity to compare the violence or crime of major US cities to that of BsAs. In the states...crime is reported most of the time...i reckon at least 90% of the time... from petty theft, to murder and rape. From what I have read in Argentine papers... the opposite is the case. Probably only 10%.
Seems...at least if you are an expat you have a 50% chance of falling victim to crime...petty and/or violent..
If you are local...at least from the locals I knew...about the same
yet for some reason...many have said LA, NY etc...are much more dangerous...

Here is a link for statistics on crime in Los Angeles county... the city I have lived in for the last 3 years.

http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ca/los-angeles/crime/

I have lived for at least 1 year and upwards of 15 in the following cities:

Istanbul, Kitzbuhel, Berlin, New York, San Francisco, Los Angeles & Buenos Aires... and by far... BA had much more crime!
 
I have friends and relatives in Chicago, LA, Paris, San Francisco, Orlando, Raleigh, Hopkinsville (KY), Carmel (CA), Rock Island and Bloomington (IL), Davenport, Cedar Falls, and Iowa City (IA), Salt Lake City, Atlanta, (and more).

Not one of them has ever been a victim of crime and not one of them has bars or "anti-robo" curtains on their windows (almost all of them live in houses with windows on the ground floor).

Has anyone seen a single house or apartment in BA that doesn't have them?

(I have wood shutters on the windows of my house in Prov. Bs. As. and they aren't just decorative.)
 
cbphoto said:
In the states...crime is reported most of the time...i reckon at least 90% of the time... from petty theft, to murder and rape. From what I have read in Argentine papers... the opposite is the case. Probably only 10%.
Seems...at least if you are an expat you have a 50% chance of falling victim to crime...petty and/or violent..
Click to expand...

I have to agree.. Everyone i know in BA who is a local has been the victim of crime.. and most of my local friends dont live downtown, but it zona norte, hurlingham, escobar etc, which you would think is safer.. but i only know of 2 who reported the crime, one was a car jacking, the other was men broke into the house and beat up the maid because she did not know where the money was hiden..

In NZ there was a big increase in crime against chinese immigrates a few years back.. It turned out it wasnt that there was more crime, it was that the chinese victims started to trust the NZ police and were reporting crime which in the past they were to scared to report because of threats from the criminals or the mistrust of the police as thats was they were use to in china..
 
Yes...Marksoc, i read the article...and it is quite biased. It's stats are seemingly based on those of the governments/police...which we surely can agree...are way off...and I think most baexpats, expats and locals will agree..
It's not paranoia when most people in BsAs have been victim to crime...and/or everyone they know has...
I must emphasize... I am only talking about Buenos Aires...
 
As of 2011.05.20 crime in BsAs looks like this:

Respondents = 197

Crime .................. Number Percentage
Pockets picked ............ 45 ...... 22.9
Burglary .................. 11 ....... 5.6
Theft, other .............. 39 ...... 19.8
Robbery, other ............ 19 ....... 9.6

Armed robbery ............. 19 ....... 9.6
Stabbed .................... 1 ....... 0.5
Shot ....................... 1 ....... 0.5

Other crimes .............. 23 ...... 11.7

Number non-victims: ....... 98 ...... 50.3

Attempts NOT included.

The percentage sums up to more than 100 because we are counting number of crimes, not number of victims.

Number of crimes .. 158

Number of dangerous crimes: 21 or 13.3 percent.

Number non-victims: 98 ...... 50.3 percent.
Number victims: ... 94 ...... 49.7 percent.

The figures have been very stable since February, hovering around 50/50 for victims and non-victims.

If you respond to the poll, make sure you have read the definitions in the first post before you add anything: http://baexpats.org/expat-life/5805-crime-bsas-anyone.html#post34973
 
As of 2011.06.12 crime in BsAs looks like this:

Respondents = 200

Crime ............. Number Percentage
Pockets picked ........ 45 ..... 22.5
Burglary .............. 11 ...... 5.5
Theft, other .......... 41 ..... 20.5
Robbery, other ........ 19 ...... 9.5

Armed robbery ......... 20 ..... 10.0
Stabbed ................ 1 ...... 0.5
Shot ................... 1 ...... 0.5

Other crimes .......... 23 ..... 11.5

Attempts not included.

The percentage calculated as number of crimes/respondents sum up to more than 100 because we are counting number of crimes, not number of victims.

Number of crimes .. 162

Number of dangerous crimes: 22 = 13.6 percent of all crimes.

Number non-victims: 100 = 50.0 percent.
Number victims: ... 100 = 50.0 percent.

The figures have been very stable since February 2011, hovering around 50/50 for victims and non-victims and at 200 respondents are indicative of what you can expect after living in BsAs for some years.

If you respond to the poll, make sure you have read the definitions in the first post before you add anything: http://baexpats.org/expat-life/5805-crime-bsas-anyone.html#post34973
 
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