Effects Of A Default On Expats

I have to admit that after reading more about Griesa, he used to be an anti-system judge (while being Republican), so my comments last month about the fact he's corrupted were excessive, sorry for that. Now, I think that the role played by the lobbies is against the public interest.
 
Hi,

Argentina a serial defauter? Well, we default 7 times in our history, and guess what? Mighty US only 6 times, Spain is the country with more defaults, 14. So go get your sources right, sad soul.

Cheers!
I see zero times when the US defaulted on International debt. And 4 times that are domestic, near defaults. Read em yourself. I'll bet you can.
The 1790 Default. Shortly after the formation of the first United States federal government under the Constitution of 1787, Congress passed and President Washington signed the Funding Act of 1790. This act directed the Secretary of the Treasury, Alexander Hamilton, to assume the Revolutionary War debts of the states, allowing creditors to exchange the state-backed war debt with bonds issued by the US Treasury. The interest on the bonds was deferred until 1801. A total of $21.5 million dollars was assumed.
Prior to the passage of the Funding Act, much of the debt was expected to default. It traded at deep discounts to face value. Once the act was passed, the value of the debt skyrocketed—because bondholders were sure they would be repaid by the new federal government. In fact, quite a lot of money was made by people who bought the state debt in anticipation of the Funding Act or with early notice that it had passed. Even at the time of the Founding, traders were profiting from informational asymmetries.
The Act also provided that the debt securities issued by the Confederation government that existed prior to the federal government would be converted into new federal bonds. The interest on one third of the value of the converted bonds was deferred until 1801.
So why is this described as a default by Reinhart and Rogoff? It’s pretty clear that the federal government was not defaulting on its own obligations. Instead, it was modifying obligations incurred by the states—either directly or through the Confederation—and assuming them.
This was almost the opposite of a default, since it made payment much more likely. That’s why the bonds rallied after the passage of the act.
The 1841-1842 Defaults. This was actually a series of defaults by nine state governments, including three states that repudiated their debt altogether. The federal government was not involved.
The 1873-1884 Defaults. Another series of defaults by states and cities. In total 10 states defaulted. West Virginia, the worst of the state financial basket cases, was still working out its debt with creditors by 1918. There wasn’t a federal government default, however.
The 1933 Default. In the summer of 1933, Congress passed the “Joint Resolution to Assure Uniform Value to the Coins and Currencies of the United States” which declared invalid and provisions of obligations of the federal government which were “purported” to give the creditor the right to require repayment in gold. The Roosevelt administration wanted to depreciate the paper currency, and thought the “gold clauses” contained in various bonds were an obstacle.
 
I don't think Argentina wants to default - that triggers a potential bond call by the bond holders. If they negotiate with the holdouts they are fearful of RUFO. No one, inlcuding Griesa, knows how to get everyone out of this mess and get a workable solution.
 
If there's a default, it would be a Pyrrhic victory for CFK: on one hand she would appear as the good one protecting the Nation against the Vultures, but after each default, the government has been forced to leave shortly after (I think it has always been like that, didn't check) which wouldn't be very good if she wants a pro CFK to get elected after her.

On another hand, Argentina doesn't have that many assets in the US

Tricky stuff
 
If there's a default, it would be a Pyrrhic victory for CFK: on one hand she would appear as the good one protecting the Nation against the Vultures, but after each default, the government has been forced to leave shortly after (I think it has always been like that, didn't check) which wouldn't be very good if she wants a pro CFK to get elected after her.

On another hand, Argentina doesn't have that many assets in the US

Tricky stuff

I think CFK wants an opposition government that will fail miserably because of her legacy, so that she or her acolyte can return to power as the country's savior.
 
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[background=rgb(252, 252, 252)]I believe so too. Its probably about the long game now. The elections after the next elections. [/background][background=rgb(252, 252, 252)]Take the glory against the vultures and let someone else take the fall for the fallout in the economy etc. [/background][background=rgb(252, 252, 252)] Who knows... maybe Maximus [/background]Decimus Meridius will be ripe to continue the legacy at this point.. [background=rgb(252, 252, 252)] [/background]
 
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