Google on their way to South America....

[scotttswan]

FWIW, I'm pretty sure Argentine Internet users will benefit majorly from a data center in Chile.

I have Fibertel broadband Internet. At the time I was setting it up, I read about their delivering on advertised speeds only within Argentina; outside the country, download speeds are 2.5 Mbps at best. I ran speed tests using both servers in Argentina as well as a host of other countries and this turned out to be true: as close as Montevideo, speeds were sometimes slower than to the US. The exception was Chile, which had blazing fast service, on par with Argentina.

So it'd seem that we stand to gain big-time from a Chilean data server.

Only when they build the proposed South American loop as davonz says all traffic from argentina is routed through brazil and then through the states.

If they ever get round to building the proposed loop then everyone will see a difference from this data centre and buffering on youtube will hopefully be a thing of the past.


shows the undersea water cables and there isn't really any overland cables from Argentina to Chile.

 

[ben]

davonz and scottswan, I get what you're saying, I make no claims to understanding why the results would be as I saw them. Only that as a matter of fact, when I was running speedtest.net tests using various servers, if I remember correctly, when I used servers in Brazil downloads maxed out at 2.5 Mbps, compared with over 6 Mbps for Chile. Why that should be so - I have no idea.

 

[davonz]

Here is a little test i just done - speedtest done around 8:30, traceroutes done between 9 and 9:30am, so busy time...

The first table is the netspeed test, first row ping speed, second download, third upload.

The 2nd and 3rd tables are tracerounte tests, 2nd table from my laptop in BSAS, and last from one of the servers in NZ, which was also sending and receiving mail at the time, so not exactly all it was doing.. oh and my laptop (quad core i7 2.2ghz 8gb ram) is alot more powerful that the server (PIII 1ghz 512mb) - incase you think that could be why speeds are better from NZ, and the internet connection for the laptop is cable, server ADSL, so server should have worse connection, and infact i think it is 2mbps down, 512kbps up - so not fast by any means and is in a small town of 5000 people, and on top of that NZ has shit internet outside of a few main cities compared to most western countries..

Its interesting to see that its quicker to access a the santiago times from NZ that from BSAS, even though there are 19 hops between, and the distance is many many times greater, than just going over the hill from here..

I tried doing traceroutes on cnn.com, nytimes, miamiherald.com etc, but they all timed out from here..
The biggest internet site in NZ traffic wise is trademe, local auction site like ebay/mercadolibre, so was interesting to compare.

Anyways you can see for yourself the quality/state of the internet here..

For anyone who wants to test for themself:
windows - tracert bbc.co.uk
linux/mac - traceroute bbc.co.uk

the hops means how many connections (routers) along they way is taken to get to destination. A bit like how many roads you would have to take from here to chile or wherever..

 

[scotttswan]

davonz and scottswan, I get what you're saying, I make no claims to understanding why the results would be as I saw them. Only that as a matter of fact, when I was running speedtest.net tests using various servers, if I remember correctly, when I used servers in Brazil downloads maxed out at 2.5 Mbps, compared with over 6 Mbps for Chile. Why that should be so - I have no idea.

Most likely the servers in brazil being hammered or only connected to a 10Mbit line, doesn't change the fact that the traffic is routed through the states.

Santiagotimes.cl isn't a good example as it is hosted in the states.


I have just done 2 tests with isp's netup.cl and tmm.cl both who are hosted in Chile.

tmm.cl

Tracing route to altair.tmm.cl [200.0.148.87]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 * * * Request timed out.
2 350 ms 12 ms 15 ms telecentro-reversos.com.ar [2
00.115.195.21]
3 12 ms 117 ms 137 ms 195.22.220.33
4 73 ms 9 ms 112 ms 195.22.220.33
5 161 ms 160 ms 164 ms GigabitEthernet1-0-0.GW10.MIA4.ALTER.NET [157.13
0.88.61]
6 161 ms 175 ms 154 ms 0.xe-4-0-0.XL3.MIA4.ALTER.NET [152.63.84.121]
7 141 ms 143 ms 136 ms 0.so-0-0-0.IL1.MIA6.ALTER.NET [152.63.83.21]
8 254 ms 450 ms 241 ms 0.so-0-0-1.XT3.GIA1.ALTER.NET [64.116.16.41]
9 861 ms 248 ms 242 ms POS8-0-0.TG1.GIA1.ALTER.NET [64.116.16.102]
10 260 ms 254 ms 236 ms cybercenter.customer.alter.net [64.116.192.234]

11 246 ms 243 ms 256 ms www.ciberstore.cl [200.0.148.87]

Trace complete.

This jumps from Argentina to the States(Atlanta) and then jumps from the States(kansas) to a server in Santiago, Chile.

Interestingly

Tracing route to www.netup.cl [200.2.204.168]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 * * * Request timed out.
2 350 ms 19 ms 13 ms cpe-200-115-195-21.telecentro-reversos.com.ar [2
00.115.195.21]
3 126 ms 137 ms 11 ms 195.22.220.33
4 58 ms * 106 ms 195.22.220.33
5 66 ms 56 ms 57 ms entel-chile.santiago2.san.seabone.net [195.22.22
1.42]
6 * * * Request timed out.
7 242 ms 149 ms 194 ms rt4-ntl2.core.netline.cl [201.219.128.29]
8 60 ms 76 ms 60 ms portal.lc-1.netline.cl [200.2.204.168]
9 76 ms 72 ms 76 ms portal.lc-1.netline.cl [200.2.204.168]

Trace complete.

The link to netup.cl jumps directly from 195.22.220.33 ( BA) to an IP in Italy! before being routed back to Chile.

Some weird routing going on and its changed a bit since i last tested. Maybe they have laid out some new lines.

Here's a link about the fiber optic ring they're supposed to be building

some interesting news about connections between brazil - europe and the states

http://www.fiercetelecom.com/story/...-us-brazil-submarine-cable-network/2012-03-14

http://www.fiercetelecom.com/story/...cable-linking-south-america-europe/2012-09-06

 

[davonz]

Santiagotimes.cl isn't a good example as it is hosted in the states.

That will teach me for not checking first...


Checked out netup.cl
from arg:
14 portal.lc-1.netline.cl (200.2.204.168) 436.339 ms 447.035 ms 453.225

from nz:
16 portal.lc-1.netline.cl (200.2.204.168) 310.819 ms 312.297 ms 321.315 ms

i wonder why they have never done a link from here to chile.

 

[scotttswan]

That will teach me for not checking first...


Checked out netup.cl
from arg:
14 portal.lc-1.netline.cl (200.2.204.168) 436.339 ms 447.035 ms 453.225

from nz:
16 portal.lc-1.netline.cl (200.2.204.168) 310.819 ms 312.297 ms 321.315 ms

i wonder why they have never done a link from here to chile.

overland cables are more expensive and the Andes are in the way?