I Was Swindled Out Of $1000 Dollars

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I also think the money has been spent & IG is waiting to get money in order to repay.
At the same time, would it be worth it to lose the stuff & run into potential problems, etc? Logically no (but people can lack logic).
 
I also think the money has been spent & IG is waiting to get money in order to repay.
At the same time, would it be worth it to lose the stuff & run into potential problems, etc? Logically no (but people can lack logic).
Exactly what I thought.
 
This is a song about waking up in the morning with a black eye and finding that someone pissed in your last bottle of maple syrup. This is a song about having something that couldn't be valued in dollars and losing it, and one day you look back on it all and wonder what went wrong. This song is dedicated to anyone who ever trusted and lost and then trusted again. This is a song called 'Blue Dollar Blues' or 'I didn’t want to xoom it because it will affect you with the exchange rate'

“There must a way to get greenbacks here” said Joe to the thief
“There’s too much inflation, I can’t get no relief
At expat events, they drink my wine, my syrup fills their girth
None of them along the line can tell me what the peso is worth”

“No reason to get excited,” the thief, he kindly spoke
“There are many here among us who feel that free trade is but a joke
But you and I, we’ve been through that, and this is not our fate
So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late”

All along the watchtower, aduana kept the view
While all the Nutella was sent back, cleaning powder too

Outside in the distance an AFIP hound did growl
The buquebus was approaching, the wind began to howl
 
Joe
Sorry to hear of your misfortune. Truly. I too have been a victim in the past, unpaid consulting fees, employment ¨en negro¨ wages, English classes. etc. never paid by ¨the school¨.

I just had a conversation with a fellow ex pat on this board when he stopped into Big Apple the other day on how both the character and unity of the ex pat community has changed in the 9 years I / we have been here. We remember when ex pats would rush to give blood to help another and there was never a person, generally speaking, denied aide and assistance from the community. No reason not to ever existed.

Now, shamefully, I hear as many stories of hardship brought upon ex pats by other ex pats as I do and did ¨local¨ persons. I mean any form of abuse is not tolerable, but, folks, we´re all in the same boat, and sadly for the past few years it seems the name painted on the sides of the bow is TITANIC. I don´t think we will ever regain the once great unity and fraternity the BA ex pat community once had, and that´s really sad.

Joe, if you want, stop into Big Apple, introduce yourself to me, and you can drown your sorrows in a cup of coffee and Brownie Castrado on me!
 
This is a song about waking up in the morning with a black eye and finding that someone pissed in your last bottle of maple syrup. This is a song about having something that couldn't be valued in dollars and losing it, and one day you look back on it all and wonder what went wrong. This song is dedicated to anyone who ever trusted and lost and then trusted again. This is a song called 'Blue Dollar Blues' or 'I didn’t want to xoom it because it will affect you with the exchange rate'

“There must a way to get greenbacks here” said Joe to the thief
“There’s too much inflation, I can’t get no relief
At expat events, they drink my wine, my syrup fills their girth
None of them along the line can tell me what the peso is worth”

“No reason to get excited,” the thief, he kindly spoke
“There are many here among us who feel that free trade is but a joke
But you and I, we’ve been through that, and this is not our fate
So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late”

All along the watchtower, aduana kept the view
While all the Nutella was sent back, cleaning powder too

Outside in the distance an AFIP hound did growl
The buquebus was approaching, the wind began to howl
I haven't heard such good rhymes since Sir Mix-a-Lot was in the house. And to Hendrix too. Nice.
 
I nominate paupers Ode "Blue dollar Blues" for best original song on the BAexpat forum!
So good to have you and your wit back Paup!
 
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Dear IG,

I see two possibilities:

1. You really intended to do Joe a favor and somehow this turned out badly. Solution: Do whatever it is you have to do to get this resolved in the next 24 hours. It doesn't matter if it is not "convenient," or is somehow "impossible." Make it possible. Your honor is at stake.

2. You really intended to swindle Joe out of $1000 and made up a good cover story. Solution: Get a better teacher. Dude, you can't get anywhere on $1000. If you are going to swindle, swindle big. That way you can be laying back with beautiful women in your 80 foot yacht off of the coast of South Florida laughing at all of the expats in Buenos Aires speculating on your whereabouts. :)
 
Wow, I don't read the forum for a week or so and look what I miss!

Damn Joe, this has to suck. $1000 means a lot to most of us for sure. I can only imagine the sh*t-storm I'd be in if I was planning to pay my rent and the money never made it, particularly in the manner in which it happened.

Reading through the email dialog it seems obvious to me what most likely happened to the money (IG lost his deposit money here, needed deposit money there?). I can't see any reason in any of this for IG to not have gotten the money to you, if he had it. I can certainly see how his doing a favor for you could have complicated his situation (as far as being able to change plans and stay in PE) in the beginning, but accepting the request to bring the money is tantamount to accepting responsibility for it, up to a point (obviously if he was robbed on the way to deliver the money or something it would be difficult to ask IG to make up the loss himself, for example). In accepting responsibility, if IG's plans changed to impact you being able to get your money (and pay the rent! Damn...), as was mentioned by many members there are a number of ways he could have made that right in all of the time which has passed.

I saw some fairly cold comments related to your "greed" that I just can't agree with. You guys seem have known each other for a decent amount of time. Maybe you weren't best of friends, but you'd obviously conversed and interacted in person over a period of some months - it's not like you met the guy once or twice and had no valid basis for judging his character. I can't see how it is in any way unreasonable to expect that someone who you knew would not treat your money and your situation so cavalierly, at best. I know how hard it is to get money into the country at a decent price and there's nothing wrong with trusting someone who you think you know to do you a solid. There's certainly nothing wrong with trying to get the most out of your money, particularly here and now.

The only comment I'd make related to the loss and experience is something a good friend of mine says about money. Never expect the person to whom you are lending money to pay it back, rather take it as a good surprise when it does get paid back. And therefore, never lend more than you can afford to lose or want to pay as a lesson. (The term "loan" here is used quite loosely - direct quote from my friend but I know this wasn't exactly a loan, still the same basic concept). None of which helps you in your loss, I know.

As far as IG, well, it surprises me to hear how he handled this if he's truly a "good guy". It does seem like an opportunity situation, not a true premeditated scam. I hope he makes good on the money, but I'd say interest on $1000 as well as the pain and suffering he caused you is worth more than the original sum by a goodly amount.

Sorry, dude.

There are, unfortunately, a few bad apple expats around but I don't believe that it's but a small percentage. I have only known of one guy who was a complete ass, who tried to place himself into specific situations to specifically take advantage of someone, in the 8 years since I've been here. That one involved managing and renovating a property, subsequent embezzling on a large scale, regular bills not paid and many other dastardly deeds that ended up involving lawyers and everything. Unfortunately, I've known of a few other incidents of sheer stupidity from one expat who has caused damage to another expat, almost always related to money.
 
Also set to music..

"This is a story bout international guy, A young expat, just trying to get by"
"He used to house sit, take care of pets too"
"Here's what happened when he decided to cut loose"

"He headed up to the coast of Uraguay, left his stuff with Joe, a good to do guy"
"well he ran into some expat hate, when Joe gave him cash to get a better rate"

"International guy used the cash to buy some pot,
then he smoked it all and paid Joe he did not, yeaaah, go on take the money and run.. "
 
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