Immigration For Dummies

[Bajo_cero2]

Yes, confirmed.

 

[srtamollygreen]

Thanks a ton, guys.

 

[Musicmanman]

Hey everyone. I an a US citizen and my wife is a native Argentine citizen and a naturalized US citizen. We have two young kids. We were married in the US and had a church ceremony in BA but did not do a civil marriage in Argentina. We have both been married before and divorced in the US. We are moving to BA in Oct.
Do I need divorce papers and marriage license from my previous marriage for the Permanent Residency process? Will we need to have a civil marriage in Argentina (or is it easier for the process)?
Any help is much appreciated!

 

[Ceviche]

Musicmanman

Were you on this forum before as "Musicman"?

 

[Musicmanman]

Ceviche, no. I'm new.

 

[camel]

Hey everyone. I an a US citizen and my wife is a native Argentine citizen and a naturalized US citizen. We have two young kids. We were married in the US and had a church ceremony in BA but did not do a civil marriage in Argentina. We have both been married before and divorced in the US. We are moving to BA in Oct.
Do I need divorce papers and marriage license from my previous marriage for the Permanent Residency process? Will we need to have a civil marriage in Argentina (or is it easier for the process)?

I'm not sure what you need for permanent residency, but since you'll need it all for the civil union, I'd bring all the required documents anyway.

Assuming you are doing this in CABA (Buenos Aires City, Capital Federal), here is the page with the requirements: http://www.buenosair...uniones-civiles

The relevant part is:
Con matrimonio y divorcio en el extranjero:
Autorización mediante. Disposición concedida por la Dirección General del Registro Civil, Uruguay 753.

That language is pretty general, but from some friends who just did this, here is what the needed. Because of the divorces, you will need your previous marriage certificates and divorce decrees, and they must be apostilled in the US. Do this before you leave, it is much more difficult, slow, and expensive to do it once you're here (because you have to have someone in the US do it for you). Once you're here, you'll have to get it translated and legalized, from a public translator (one licensed by the colegio de traductores publicos - they have a web site).

The other relevant section of that page talks about if you have children in common:
Hijos en común:
Partida de nacimiento original y fotocopia debidamente legalizada y traducida según corresponda. La fecha de expedición de la partida no podrá ser mayor a un año. Uno de ambos convivientes deberá acreditar domicilio en su DNI vigente, en la jurisdicción de la Ciudad de Buenos Aires, con una antigüedad no menor a dos años.

So you need the birth certificates, Apostilled, and translated as I described above. It says one of the people must have a valid DNI that shows their address is in CABA, and I think it says you're supposed to have lived here for two years, but I'm not sure how that affects your case. Maybe there's another process to legalize a marriage abroad, here in Argentina?

You can do this all yourself, especially if at least one of you speaks Spanish well enough to deal with all the tramites (paperwork). If you want a lawyer to do it for you, send me a PM and I can recommend the lawyer who helped my friends do the process.


Also: You should start a new thread, so we don't clutter up this useful thread with information that is specific to your case. The forum doesn't have a wiki yet so this thread is the closest thing we have for now.

 

[jenis]

Just to confirm what Camel said above re previous marriage certificates. Despite having divorce decrees/certificates from wherever you were divorced, you will be required to show your previous marriage certificate/licence here in Buenos Aires, Arg. The documents will have to have apostilles, and my advice is to do it via the State Dept. in Washington ...Some U.S. states have stopped issuing apostilles for documents from other states, which was previously possible. Ie. If you live in California, but have a divorce judgment/certificate/decree from Ohio, then you have to apostille it in Ohio, or you can send it straight to D.C. where it will be processed quicker.

I had a recent issue with clients who lost 3 months because they initially sent their documents from out of state to their then current state department office (where they were residing at the time) ... The current state department offered to provide them with an authentication of the documents, but here in Argentina, that will not be accepted.

On the note you send to the State Department, ensure that you highlight the fact that your documents need an apostille for Foreign Residency purposes.

 

[Musicmanman]

Camel and Jenis thanks so much. Just to be clear both myself and my wife will need previous marriage and divorce documents apostilled correctly then translated in Argentina so that we can be married civilly in Arg.

 

[jenis]

Exactly.

 

[maimara]

Hi there, approaching this topic with a question about follow-up processes. So, I managed to get my recidencia precaria, but they told me to come back with "constancia de alta temprana" from AFIP - anybody knows anything about this process? I am very lost, and so are my Argentinian friends I asked help from.. At my coming workplace they were also not sure.. Any help that can shed light what is this process and what should I do now is much appreciated! I am guessing it has something to do with my temp. working permit, and that I should head to ANSES for CUIL..

Thanks and Blue skies!