Insane Landlords

[CarverFan]

You probably shouldn't have let them in in the first place. You were being helpful, but look where it's got you. I would just stay put and insist I'm not leaving till they return the deposit...few owners declare rental income for tax so you could threaten to go to the authorities too. There are lots of threads in this.

 

[TheBlackHand]

lol @ this crock of shit. You obviously don't know how the rental business works or what the margins are. Personally, if I were renting my apartment, I would rent it for two years to a local with a guarantee. I wouldn't deal with the investment, the overhead, the work, the insecurity or the headache that renting short term, to fly by night tourists that don't understand what respect of private property, means.

I disagree. First of all, landlords who are already making a killing leasing their apartment to foreigners in USD at prices that are 3-4 times the cost of what locals would pay

 

[TheBlackHand]

They don't have to declare it unless it's over 8000 pesos a month. But you can call afip. The owners will simply laugh off the attempt to blackmail them.

few owners declare rental income for tax so you could threaten to go to the authorities too.

 

[perry]

Firstly there is a lot of misinformation and lies on this thread . Rents for furnished apartments are the same for foreigners and locals alike Yanqui Gallego stop misleading people here on this forum . There are absolutely no differences in what a Argentinian pays for a furnished apartment as for a expat or tourist . They are the same

With long term rentals unfurnished these are available to residents or people who can supply a guarantia . If you are an expat and have a guarantia and residency you can apply for a unfurnished property like everyone else.

Furnished apartments can be a pain in the arse and the work involved for most landlords does not justify the running around and the difficult clients . Long term rentals make more sense and they are more profitable in my opinion.

Furnished apartments are only twice as much as unfurnished properties now but you have to pay all the expenses, have to work 24 hours attending the phone and fix every minor inconvenience of tenants with little knowledge of basic plumbing . I had one tenant once who sent me out three times for a blocked toilet due to toilet paper. I left her a clear message in the bathroom not to throw toilet paper in the toilet but it made no difference. Three visits I made to unblock the toilet .

Thses and other incidences are not rare occurences and happens to all owners . For this reason there are more people moving their properties to the local market as the returns are now better.

 

[CarverFan]

I don't get it?? She wasn't allowed to flush toilet paper down the toilet? The toilet not functioning like a proper 21st century toilet was her fault? what kind of apartment was this?

 

[perry]

I don't get it?? She wasn't allowed to flush toilet paper down the toilet? The toilet not functioning like a proper 21st century toilet was her fault? what kind of apartment was this?

A toilet has capacity for toilet paper but not huge quantities . This is a common problem here in Buenos Aires and for this reason there are notices everywhere saying to use the waste paper basket close to the toilet . Apartments have rules and regulations and a tenant must respect these as to avoid problems . Is this hard for you to understand Carver?

 

[Crema Americana]

I left her a clear message in the bathroom not to throw toilet paper in the toilet but it made no difference. Three visits I made to unblock the toilet .

Instead of leaving messages and traveling to unblock toilets, how about the owner just buy and install a proper toilet? OR warn prospective renters "you can't flush toilet paper down this toilet" BEFORE they rent.

There's bad landlords, but there's some really lousy tenants as well. It's hard to say who is in the right here, since things like scratched hardwood floors can either be a tiny 1 cm scratch that was previously there, to a large patch of deep abrassive scratches that are impossible to fix without major work. Painting is a job and a half in itself, and depends on the amount of time one lived there. A landlord doesn't want to have to paint every 3 months. Curtain rods generally don't fall down, and when they do, are often quickly fixed. It was probably a mistake to leave all repairs until the last minute.

There's 2 ways to go about it... either you take the moral high road and try to work with the owner, letting him know you'll be making repairs and sending updates to keep him calm (or better yet, speaking to him through your rental agent who should argue on your behalf if you're keeping up your side of the deal, perhaps talking some reason into him).... or if you feel you have truly taken good care of the place and that he's just looking to keep the deposit, cut your losses and save on repairs. I think only you can decide for sure, since you're the only one here who has seen the apartment before and after you've lived in it.

If you do decide to fix it up, take pictures of everything post repair... especially the things he complained about in the email. The curtain rod, the floorboards, the paint, etc. Perhaps you'll get your deposit back - but there is no guarantee.

Personally I think agents should hold the deposit... that way they can make the judgement over what's normal wear and tear, or what goes beyond and needs to be replaced/fixed. The owner should be able to set the conditions in writing beforehand.

 

[cbphoto]

Maybe something getting lost in translation.. but Perry..you too have to tone it down!
Carver was not attacking you..
Calling people liars does not help anyone..
There are people wrong on both sides of the landlord/tenant agreement MORE times then not.. but the largest problem is the lack of ability to conduct communication with a basic rational of what is wrong and right. This might be cultural, education based.. maybe it's just the "human condition/conditioning"
As far as blackmailing the landlord..because everyone else does it...
Not paying rent because he will most likely keep my deposit anyway...
I will keep your deposit because all tenants are disrespectful...
I will throw my garbage on the ground too..because everyone else does it...
Why pick up my dog shit..no one else does..
the plumbing in the building is 100 years old.. so instead of replacing it:
Tenant should not flush anything larger than a 3 inch poop..or such tenant after conducting larger bowel movement must contact and pay a price gouging plumber..
If the oven does not actually get warm or if any appliance stop working tenant will loose all deposit or will get a raise in rent of 200%..
all whilst charging 1st world rent prices?
Would love to see a rental contract that mentions that

 

[perry]

Maybe something getting lost in translation.. but Perry..you too have to tone it down!
Carver was not attacking you..
Calling people liars does not help anyone..
There are people wrong on both sides of the landlord/tenant agreement MORE times then not.. but the largest problem is the lack of ability to conduct communication with a basic rational of what is wrong and right. This might be cultural, education based.. maybe it's just the "human condition/conditioning"
As far as blackmailing the landlord..because everyone else does it...
Not paying rent because he will most likely keep my deposit anyway...
I will keep your deposit because all tenants are disrespectful...
I will throw my garbage on the ground too..because everyone else does it...
Why pick up my dog shit..no one else does..
the plumbing in the building is 100 years old.. so instead of replacing it:
Tenant should not flush anything larger than a 3 inch poop..or such tenant after conducting larger bowel movement must contact and pay a price gouging plumber..
If the oven does not actually get warm or if any appliance stop working tenant will loose all deposit or will get a raise in rent of 200%..
all whilst charging 1st world rent prices?
Would love to see a rental contract that mentions that

Where did I attack Carverfan? Exagerrating my comments to make some brownie points shows the immaturity of your style of debating.

There have been lies on this thread and yes I like everyone else has the right to tell the truth . It is absolutely untrue the comments by Yanqui gallego that foriegners pay three or four times for apartments in Buenos Aires . All the properties that we rent from Remax that are furnished or unfurnished are exactly the same price for locals and expats alike . This is the same for all agencies that deal with furnished properties . The prices are the same !

Many expats rent furnished properties due to not having a guarantia and for this reason they pay furnished apartment rates which are higher in price per month . The point is these prices are the same for all and there is no gringo tax for temporary rentals to foreigners.

 

[Fabe]

Look , that non natives are gouged in argentina is a FACT. Im not saying Remax does it , But hosing a yanki pelotudo is sport here. I kow these fine mormon missionaries , , they tell me they are purposly overcharged EVERY time they buy groceries , even if the price is displayed.
You cant be so naiive to beleive that non natives dont get hosed.