Kicillof For President?

[GS_Dirtboy]

I once played a chess master 5 games. He won the first 4 games quickly. At the beginning of the 5th game he took out a sheet of paper, made some notes, then put it away. We started playing. He beat me in 10 moves. He then took out the paper and on it he had accurately predicted every move I was going to make.

If we think that all the noise, drama, and posturing around the "Vulture Funds" is about the vulture funds I think we are mistaken.

Kicillof is a smart guy and obviously knows how to play political chess.

Just my .02

What do you think?

 

[Dublin2BuenosAires]

If he chopped off the lamb chops and threw on a tie he might resemble a candidate, but it would be a case of liptstick on a pig nonetheless.

If was more more savvy he'd keep a low profile and emerge as a candidate in 2020, he would want to learn the art of "timing your run", he has bolted early imo. Outted by the ever clumsy D'Elia. Not a good person to be associated with if you're intent in distancing yourself from the old guard but staying close enough to take their existing base with you.

 

[sergio]

Didn't he call himself a "communist"? He certainly has extreme socialist ideas, so if that's what you like, he's your man.

 

[Dublin2BuenosAires]

Kiciloff is a fairly talented economist who has no doubt flirted with Marxism as an academic, that's certainly not unusual in a european or south american context but of course brings people out in rashes north of the border. As an aside, Marx himself was a talented economist and it can be argued that his predictions have a solid relationship with how the world has developed today. I would disagree strongly with his solutions, but as an predictive economist you have to say that he was pretty sound.

Kiciloff of course has not presented a single "communist" or "marxist" solution to Argentina's current economic woes. He nationalised YPF only to accept FDI in the form of Chevron's dollars. Spectacularly not communist, not really even democratic socialism. This is politics 101 so it's really not worth labouring the point. I don't believe there are any serious commentators who would stoop to try and smear our Axel as a communist. It sounds so blunt and clumsy.

 

[ajoknoblauch]

Kiciloff is a fairly talented economist who has no doubt flirted with Marxism as an academic, that's certainly not unusual in a european or south american context but of course brings people out in rashes north of the border. As an aside, Marx himself was a talented economist and it can be argued that his predictions have a solid relationship with how the world has developed today. I would disagree strongly with his solutions, but as an predictive economist you have to say that he was pretty sound.

Kiciloff of course has not presented a single "communist" or "marxist" solution to Argentina's current economic woes. He nationalised YPF only to accept FDI in the form of Chevron's dollars. Spectacularly not communist, not really even democratic socialism. This is politics 101 so it's really not worth labouring the point. I don't believe there are any serious commentators who would stoop to try and smear our Axel as a communist. It sounds so blunt and clumsy.

Marx was far better at describing the problem(s) than prescribing the solution(s).

Kicillof, in any event, is a non-starter candidate. Máximo is the heir-apparent.

 

[Matiasba]

He is from Nacional Buenos Aires, so hes probably that kind of intellectual, leftie, austere middle class porteño, which I indentify with.

He is the leftier a economy minister has gone since dictatorship. He is indeed very smart (and young, as CFK like them). He is very talented, is the case of politicians I doubt if they are corrupted.

But he has no "espalda politica", he has no apparatus, he is more a public servant, a technician than a politician, he does not have charisma, followers, or nothing to become a candidate.

 

[ajoknoblauch]

He is from Nacional Buenos Aires, so hes probably that kind of intellectual, leftie, austere middle class porteño, which I indentify with.

He is the leftier a economy minister has gone since dictatorship. He is indeed very smart (and young, as CFK like them). He is very talented, is the case of politicians I doubt if they are corrupted.

But he has no "espalda politica", he has no apparatus, he is more a public servant, a technician than a politician, he does not have charisma, followers, or nothing to become a candidate.

Well, Kiciloff does have the total lack of diplomacy that Argentine presidents consider obligatory.

 

[mc kenna]

Kicillof is selling this country off as we speak.....i have seen in my time many brilliant,smart,articulate,super cool, finance ministers or how ever these commies call themselves these days.all we need to do is wait another 5 year or less and we will see how bad his brilliant negotiations were and if you have any doubt think back when ''el tuerto'' told us he paid the IMF and we had nothing to worry about..... ggrrrrr what a bunch of useless bastards

 

[Rich One]

He is from Nacional Buenos Aires, so hes probably that kind of intellectual, leftie, austere middle class porteño, which I indentify with.

He is the leftier a economy minister has gone since dictatorship. He is indeed very smart (and young, as CFK like them). He is very talented, is the case of politicians I doubt if they are corrupted.

But he has no "espalda politica", he has no apparatus, he is more a public servant, a technician than a politician, he does not have charisma, followers, or nothing to become a candidate.

a TECHNOCRATeconomist, a progre macho, that defies the establishment by not wearing a tie and those Elvis type sideburns . A clear case of delayed adolescence. He is not a Peronista! most other likely candidates are Peronistas, Scioli, Massa, Randazzo , etc

 

[Matiasba]

a TECHNOCRATeconomist, a progre macho, that defies the establishment by not wearing a tie and those Elvis type sideburns . A clear case of delayed adolescence. He is not a Peronista! most other likely candidates are Peronistas, Scioli, Massa, Randazzo , etc

he clearly is not an orthodox technocrat. He is neo keynesianist, like this government. Whether you like it or not, this government is very peronista, and Kicillof must agree with the policies they make. So, I wouldnt say he is not a Peronista. He just avoid the peronism puterío, the politics, but the economic policies are very peronistas.