Kicillof Pays To 92% Of Bondholders, Griesa's Move Now?

[French jurist]

The thread is not about bashing the US, but rather about a decision by an US judge in favor of Vultures (being taxed mainly in offshore places, not in the US) which might have an impact on the lives of millions of people, not only in Argentina.
Of course, the US being a superpower, the consequences are different (if the fight was between Paraguay & Argentina, different story).

Of course too, it's not black & white, Argentina is not a Saint.

Not really off-topic imho.

Latest development: the BONY might get sued (especially for the part of the payment to bondholders which is not under the NY jurisdiction = can Griesa's ruling apply to other jurisdictions? Doubt it).

 

[Mockingbird]

The more I read about this whole mess, the more I think Argentina should hold out.

 

[thorsten]

The thread is not about bashing the US, but rather about a decision by an US judge in favor of Vultures (being taxed mainly in offshore places, not in the US) which might have an impact on the lives of millions of people, not only in Argentina.

Unfortunately, this thread developed into arguments over the judge taken from random comments on the internet...

 

[Mockingbird]

Unfortunately, this thread developed into arguments over the judge taken from random comments on the internet...

You mean random comments on the internet were being based on other random comments on the internet? Quite the irony if you ask me.

 

[Rich One]

Which qualifications were needed to rate judge Griesa in 2009 and before?

Does that mean that anyone who had lost a case could (and can) give him a negative rating?

Are unqualified, anonymous ratings trustworthy?

Does that mean that the older ratings are as useless & excessive as the new ones or is there something supernaturally right about ratings from before 2009?


Rating Hon. William D. Keller:

"The Honorable William D. Keller is a very old, but respectable man. He has immense patience for even the most distasteful lawyers, including ones that sit on the wrong side of the counsel's table and inside the well. Some attorneys may equate his physical health to competence, but they are wrong. His health may be deteriorating, but his mind is as sharp as a tack, and he is somehow able to put up with bad attorneys. A great judge."

"This senior judge [William D. Keller] is a dolt. He doesn't know, much less care about, the law. He is lacking in intelligence, arrogant, and extremely rude. He still is the mentor of his former law clerk, now a Los Angeles deputy district attorney, who runs the Paternico's Pontifications right-wing blog, whose contents are fully consistent with this bench-warmer's neanderthal views. Fortunately, for everyone, he takes few cases and hides in his cave in Santa Barbara, most of the time. "

Two very reliable ratings, aren't they, disagreeing on everything?

What about this rating of judge Griesa: "Unpleasant personality. Does the government's bidding."
Griesa totally ignored the US government's amicus curie brief. Did he then do the government's bidding?
Are unqualified, anonymous ratings trustworthy?

Well here judges get a rating ,,, like the one removed from the Boudou process and now Compagnoli

 

[Don Alberto]

Of course too, it's not black & white, Argentina is not a Saint.

"a practice that is far more common across the River Plate in Argentina than it is in law-abiding Uruguay: the exercise of a kind of teenage narcissism in which it is fine to break rules you don’t like, in the belief that you will get away with it. And if you don’t, well, it’s unfair because the world is against you. There is an Argentine term that captures at least part of this mindset: viveza criolla, or “native cunning”.

The Economist. "Bello: The Luis Suárez of international finance"
http://www.economist...-be-broken-luis

 

[French jurist]

"a practice that is far more common across the River Plate in Argentina than it is in law-abiding Uruguay: the exercise of a kind of teenage narcissism in which it is fine to break rules you don’t like, in the belief that you will get away with it. And if you don’t, well, it’s unfair because the world is against you. There is an Argentine term that captures at least part of this mindset: viveza criolla, or “native cunning”.

The Economist. "Bello: The Luis Suárez of international finance"
http://www.economist...-be-broken-luis

We'll agree at least on this indeed! The infamous viveza criolla that makes proud & upsets Argentines at the same time.

 

[ajoknoblauch]

"a practice that is far more common across the River Plate in Argentina than it is in law-abiding Uruguay: the exercise of a kind of teenage narcissism in which it is fine to break rules you don’t like, in the belief that you will get away with it. And if you don’t, well, it’s unfair because the world is against you. There is an Argentine term that captures at least part of this mindset: viveza criolla, or “native cunning”.

The Economist. "Bello: The Luis Suárez of international finance"
http://www.economist...-be-broken-luis

Unlike soccer, this is important.

 

[Hybrid Ambassador]

Unlike soccer, this is important.

Baseball, in Japan or be there in the ol' US o A, or in emerging countries such as Korea and Taiwan albeit still going strong and drawing many spectators game after game all year round. But the new wave of sport in those countries that fervently follows the BB now there is the only and undisputed truly a world-championship-sport called : Soccer !

 

[ajoknoblauch]

Baseball, in Japan or be there in the ol' US o A, or in emerging countries such as Korea and Taiwan albeit still going strong and drawing many spectators game after game all year round. But the new wave of sport in those countries that fervently follows the BB now there is the only and undisputed truly a world-championship-sport called : Soccer !

More significant are soccer's inevitable excretions: http://tinyurl.com/ks5x9f5