Life in USA vs. Argentina

[EricBluegrassFiddle]

Plus, you'd be that much closer to Utopia! http://tinyurl.com/ku7luu4

Yup....sure sounds like utopia to me

How much did they pay these guys to come up with that anyways?

 

[ajoknoblauch]

Yup....sure sounds like utopia to me

How much did they pay these guys to come up with that anyways?

It's only Utopia if you follow the philosophy of schlock novelists who take their inspiration from serial killers.

 

[EricBluegrassFiddle]

It's only Utopia if you follow the philosophy of schlock novelists who take their inspiration from serial killers.

Not "schlock" it's "schmuck"

Damer-nomics!!

 

[ajoknoblauch]

Actually Peronism is a type of leftism. If you classify leftism as government intervention in the economy for the purpose of wealth redistribution, then Peronism is a very hard core form of leftism.
Is it highly opportunistic and dishonest? Sure.
But it is still leftism.

Peronist ideology ranges from extreme left to extreme right, but the ideology is only words. The problem is that, when they have a shootout - literally or metaphorically - the rest of Argentina gets caught in the middle.

 

[steveinbsas]

Ohh...now this is very tempting....if I could get my wife to be interested it would great.....but then I'd have to figure out a way to come up with 85K USD!!

You're a good writer and obviously prolific: 70 posts (and counting) on a variety of subjects in just your first two days as a member here.

If you could find a way (create something) to generate income from your writing you might be able to accumulate enough wealth to achieve something you are now only dreaming about.

 

[Matiasba]

The No True Scotsman Fallacy.

Actually Peronism is a type of leftism. If you classify leftism as government intervention in the economy for the purpose of wealth redistribution, then Peronism is a very hard core form of leftism.
Is it highly opportunistic and dishonest? Sure.
But it is still leftism.

Actually, it is not left. It is Keynesianism, Welfare State, interventionism, etc, but left is quite another thing. Keynes is not Marx. There has been a lot of differences between them. Keynesianism is capitalist and Marxism is not. Marxism is to abolish capitalism.

It could be, today, centre-left, but not left.

Ps: one of peronists slogans says: "Ni yanquis, ni marxistas, peronistas"

 

[camberiu]

Actually, it is not left. It is Keynesianism, Welfare State, interventionism, etc, but left is quite another thing. Keynes is not Marx.

Neither were the Jacobins, or the anarchists, or the social democrats, or the green movement. I need to look up again the definition of "left". It is way more than just Marxism.

 

[Matiasba]

Neither were the Jacobins, or the anarchists, or the social democrats, or the green movement. I need to look up again the definition of "left". It is way more than just Marxism.

The left is people who want communism or socialism. A Revolution. The Latin American guerrillas from the 70s. Sindicalism of the beginnings of XXth century.Thats the left.

Anarchism is not left.
Social democrats are centre-left.
Green movement dont know.

 

[camberiu]

The left is people who want communism or socialism. A Revolution. The Latin American guerrillas from the 70s. Sindicalism of the beginnings of XXth century.Thats the left.

Anarchism is not left.
Social democrats are centre-left.
Green movement dont know.

Is that what they teach at UBA? If so, ask for you money back and go to a real university.

The term left wing came from the French revolution, where the Jacobins would sit on the left side of the parliament, while the Girondins would sit on the right side of the parliament. So the Jacobins were "left wing". This was before Karl Marx was even born and it had nothing to do with Marxist Revolution or the dictatorship of the proletariat.


"Leftist economic beliefs range from Keynesian economics and the welfare state through industrial democracy and the social market to nationalization of the economy and central planning"
-[background=rgba(0, 127, 255, 0.133333)] [/background]Andrew Glyn, Social Democracy in Neoliberal Times: The Left and Economic Policy since 1980, Oxford University Press, 2001,ISBN 978-0-19-924138-5,

 

[Matiasba]

Is that what they teach at UBA? If so, ask for you money back and go to a real university.

Again, you become agressive, as usual (I think you should look for help, you have a problem with UBA, maybe you re uncomfortable for being the most populous university, or because of the Nobel prize winners, I dont know) because of the lack of arguments.
And "money back"?, UBA IS 100% FREE!!!!

The term left wing came from the French revolution, where the Jacobins would sit on the left side of the parliament, while the Girondins would sit on the right side of the parliament. So the Jacobins were "left wing". This was before Karl Marx was even born and it had nothing to do with Marxist Revolution or the dictatorship of the proletariat.

I already knew this. Yes, they taught me this at UBA.

"Leftist economic beliefs range from Keynesian economics and the welfare state through industrial democracy and the social market to nationalization of the economy and central planning"
-[background=rgba(0, 127, 255, 0.133333)] [/background]Andrew Glyn, Social Democracy in Neoliberal Times: The Left and Economic Policy since 1980, Oxford University Press, 2001,ISBN 978-0-19-924138-5,

As I said, this could be considered centre left, ONLY TODAY, because the left, the original marxist left (that is: after the French Revolution but before Keynes) was way more radical and faught for the REVOLUTION. Today everything that dont follow the neoliberal principles is considered leftist. Keynes is considered leftist, while the LEFT always was something opposed to Capitalism. Again: Keynes is capitalism. What we have today with Lula and Cristina and EVo and Correa and Mujica is centre left, softer or lighter than the radical left (from Marx, 1870s, till the 1970s)